The same as in both are ignorate as fuck.
It's pretty much the same, and both statements are obviously nonsense. Generalizations like that are bad.
Last edited by mmocc02219cc8b; 2017-08-20 at 04:08 PM.
Yes. All broad generalizations like that are stupid, because the real world isn't black and white.
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Political left, right similarly motivated to avoid rival views
[...] we have an intolerance for ideas and evidence that don’t fit a certain ideology. I’m also not saying that we should restrict people to certain gender roles; I’m advocating for quite the opposite: treat people as individuals, not as just another member of their group (tribalism)..
I don't really feel like the latter is objectively happening (much) more than the former, but I am of course open to being proven wrong.
That said, it does not really change my statement either way as I made no judgement regarding the frequency - but merely stated that both are wrong if happening.
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Political left, right similarly motivated to avoid rival views
[...] we have an intolerance for ideas and evidence that don’t fit a certain ideology. I’m also not saying that we should restrict people to certain gender roles; I’m advocating for quite the opposite: treat people as individuals, not as just another member of their group (tribalism)..
Oh shut up... I was talking about people that say "you all", "you lot", etc. i.e. - broad generalisation when they're talking to ANY right-winger, and relating all them all as fascists. Such people are hypocrites.
As someone has already mentioned, this forum has plenty of nut jobs on both sides...
Last edited by Daedius; 2017-08-20 at 04:20 PM.
Notice how the narrative is staring to change. The left had an advantage and went too far like they always do and blew it. Everyone forgot about the 200 Nazis spread across the nation and realize that the far left is much bigger and just as dangerous.
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Political left, right similarly motivated to avoid rival views
[...] we have an intolerance for ideas and evidence that don’t fit a certain ideology. I’m also not saying that we should restrict people to certain gender roles; I’m advocating for quite the opposite: treat people as individuals, not as just another member of their group (tribalism)..
The thread is asking if the claims are equal. Sure, they are. The problem is we have high-profile people claiming the former, and the second claim seems pulled from someone's ass.
It's a bit like saying "Sure, the alt-right says Hitler did nothing wrong, but the left says Lenin did nothing wrong!" No they fucking don't. I've literally never heard that outside alt-right people claiming the left says this.
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Political left, right similarly motivated to avoid rival views
[...] we have an intolerance for ideas and evidence that don’t fit a certain ideology. I’m also not saying that we should restrict people to certain gender roles; I’m advocating for quite the opposite: treat people as individuals, not as just another member of their group (tribalism)..
And clearly at least ONE mind-reader, namely you. since you know that people mean "all right-wingers" whenever they say "You" or "You all" or "You lot". Because there is no way that they mean "people like you who hold the views you do". Nono, all right-wingers hold the same views, isn't that so...
I don't think all right wingers are fascists or racists. However most right wingers I'm aware of refuse to acknowledge that these neo Nazis and fascists are hardcore trump supporters. Trump has empowered them. And Trump is the candidate most right wingers support. So when the president hesitates to denounce them and the supporters attack antifa instead of the radical fringes of their own party, it's insane
But my point is that this whole thing is a red-herring. Yes, obviously, these two statements would be functionally similar, but bringing it up is simply a distraction from the fact that the former case actually happens and the latter case is bullshit pulled from someone's ass.
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Republicans have, for decades now, specifically targeted bigots and morons for the votes they can't outright steal. It's called the Southern Strategy.
Once again the right-wingers have the blood of innocent US citizens on their hands and they continue to cheer on their inbred turnip god-king. Some publicly, some privately, but you better believe they are all grinning ear to ear after succeeding in their destructive strategy.Ken Mehlman, lifetime conservative, Bush Jr.s former campaign manager and Chairman of the RNC, held several large meetings with African-American business, community, and religious leaders. When asked about the strategy of using race as an issue to build GOP dominance in the once-Democratic South, Mehlman replied,
"Republican candidates often have prospered by ignoring black voters and even by exploiting racial tensions," and, "by the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African-American community. Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization."
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