Video Emerges of Man Firing Shot Near Protester at Charlottesville Rally

[Ripster42]

Haha you got me, I was fooled go you, I was expecting you were acting like you had the ability to make a completely reasonable argument.

ERR no you can't make a mini fucking flame thrower and point it in the direction of people.

I am well aware of the guy with the gun and I don't for a moment buy the counter protesters explicitly started shit, but no the flame thrower isn't legal and if a cop had saw that he would have likely acted.

Again, what's the crime? I just linked the one for the other guy...

[Tiwack]

Good, he's been arrested but it wouldn't have been pretty if that aerosol can blew in a crowded place like that... The need to bring weapons in the first place to a protest with law enforcement in place boggles my mind. How can they guarantee they won't do something stupid in the heat of the moment like these guys? The flamethrower freaked him out and rightly so.

How it's productive to have a shouting match of profanities is beyond me but gotta oppose them someway I suppose.

[Ripster42]

Ok good, like I already said pick him up and prosecute him.

So what's the crime for the other guy? Or are you still in the, "Arrest him for something, because I don't agree with him!" camp?

If he actually committed a crime, arrest him. If not, stop calling for his arrest.

Edit: This is as close as I can find: https://vacode.org/2016/18.2/9/2/18.2-415/ A misdemeanor, possibly. So ya, trying to equate a class 4 felony violation with maybe a violation of a misdemeanor code is pretty laughable.

[Masark]

Try getting your head out of your ass. It's linked in the OP.
I'm waiting

Just because the gun is producing smoke and flame and there's a bullet flying out of the barrel doesn't mean he fired it!

[Livnthedream]

^ That about sums up so much of the stupidity in this thread.

[Super Kami Dende]

No. I believe him using "thug" is that he really wants to say the word the guy who fired the weapon. Just another dead...

Wut? He's in Antifa, wears a Mask and was flamethrowing. How is he not a Thug?

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Just because someone isn't a model citizen means we should murder them?

TBF I wouldn't have cared if he lit the other guys up in Flame either. Let the Nazi's and Antifa kill eachother. It's a literal win/win for everyone else.

[Ripster42]

I expect his actions were not legal, my ability to provide the statute that is applicable in no way impacts how guilty or innocent he is. I expect that the Cops and the DA do know which laws would apply and be able to act accordingly. I am in no way calling for law enforcement to act unprofessional or outside their legal powers.

I got you in my edit:

So what's the crime for the other guy? Or are you still in the, "Arrest him for something, because I don't agree with him!" camp?

If he actually committed a crime, arrest him. If not, stop calling for his arrest.

Edit: This is as close as I can find: https://vacode.org/2016/18.2/9/2/18.2-415/ A misdemeanor, possibly. So ya, trying to equate a class 4 felony violation with maybe a violation of a misdemeanor code is pretty laughable.

[Tiwack]

Oh yeah, that flamethrower freaked him out enough for him to walk right by it, turn around and shoot a gun into a crowd then calmly walk away. Super freaked out.

At first he's just shocked as it comes at him while he walks past but then he decides that shit ain't gonna fly and goes back to aim his gun in the guys direction to protect his pals and make the flamethrower guy fall back. Missfire luckily goes into the bush/dirt. Could've been the spark igniting a melee between protesters..

[jibberbox85]

Yes, and that should be a charge right there, discharging a fire arm into a crowd, he forfeited his rights to any known law on the books. And one trained in fire arms will tell you, that you don't fire a warning shot.

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No in the link he clearly fired, not aiming at anybody, but that is for sure fucking illegal, and exactly the kind of prime example of the bullshit that went on that day that let to 1 person being killed and 19 injured, this man should be in jail and his guns taken, and restricted from ever owning a fire arm again.

Title of the video is "gun pulled #unitetheright #Charlottesville"


Where did it say he fired it?

[Super Kami Dende]

^ That about sums up so much of the stupidity in this thread.

indeed, But don't forget bro! according to these nutjobs hating one group means you support the other. instead of just being able to hate more than 1 group

[Ripster42]

Title of the video is "gun pulled #unitetheright #Charlottesville"


Where did it say he fired it?

At this point I don't know if people just don't know how links work or what. The video isn't embedded in the OP. It's linked to in the OP. That long line of green text you see is the link. The video clearly shows him firing his weapon.

Edit: Just to make things easier for you.

In it, a white rally-goer is shown pointing a gun at a black protestor holding an improvised flamethrower. The man yells, “Hey nigger! Hey!” He then fires what appears to be a live round into a bush close to the protestor and strolls away amid fellow marchers – just feet from a line of stationary police officers, who don’t react at all:

[jibberbox85]

At this point I don't know if people just don't know how links work or what. The video isn't embedded in the OP. It's linked to in the OP. That long line of green text you see is the link. The video clearly shows him firing his weapon.

I didn't see anything showing that he fired the weapon. Can you give me the timing of where that is so i can look for it?

[Ripster42]

indeed, But don't forget bro! according to these nutjobs hating one group means you support the other. instead of just being able to hate more than 1 group

Nice strawman. It's totally not the fact that people defending nazis and KKK members are trying equate one group whose members shot into a crowd and killed a person with a car to another group who didn't. Because those are two totally equal things. Apparently. At least to nazi apologists. Or defending statements like, "There are good people on both sides." There are no good nazis or kkk members, and there are no good people who march in support of them.

[jibberbox85]

It's a 30 second video. You're fucking blind and deaf if you don't see and hear it.

I watched it at that point, and don't see any clear evidence of him firing his hand gun.


If you can provide me the exact timing I could look a little better.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Again, what's the crime? I just linked the one for the other guy...

He lite a can of aerosol and turned it into a flame thrower and aimed it at a crowd of people. Really DUDE? You need the specific violation that would entail? Public endangerment for starters, http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2005/B...DF/H1514v1.pdf , then there are the laws that prohibit the use of fireworks which a flamethrower would technically fall under http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedL...Article_54.pdf

However not being more familiar with their state, I am unaware of how they deal with assault with a deadly weapon, but I am sure the county prosecutor would know.

[Doctor Amadeus]

I watched it at that point, and don't see any clear evidence of him firing his hand gun.


If you can provide me the exact timing I could look a little better.

Then you clearly aren't fucking looking, don't know how to fucking operate the Internets, or you are choosing to be full of shit.

[Freighter]

Then you're literally fucking blind and deaf. He fires it at the 12-13 second mark. You can hear it. You can see the smoke from the gun powder.

I can't hear a gunshot nor do I see any at 12-13 seconds. Is it the stuff at 7-9 seconds?

[Mittens]

Seems unfortunate he missed. A masked Thug with a Flamethrower isn't exactly a model citizen.

Killing people is bad.

[jibberbox85]

Then you're literally fucking blind and deaf. He fires it at the 12-13 second mark. You can hear it. You can see the smoke from the gun powder.

I heard some drums going off in the background, but I didn't see any clear cut evidence of him shooting his gun. Are you saying that the video clearly shows that he fired his gun?

[Tiwack]

The guy never "came at him" with the flamethrower. You're just making shit up. It also wasn't a misfire. The idiot didn't have a bullet in the chamber and he's lucky because it looked like he was actually aiming when he tried to fire this time. Then he cocks his gun and hastily fires and misses.

He gets sprayed in the face and likely sees the lighter as other shit get thrown at him. He wouldn't have pulled the gun if he didn't feel threatened. True he does fire the weapon with the intent to scare off people as he loads it and aims low as people yell the N-word as if he should be singled out because of the weapon he brought.