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    Quote Originally Posted by nacixems View Post
    Sorry, Antifa is no better than KKK or any other hate group, which is what they are. body count or not. its nothing more than a hate group that wear masks of cowards. period.
    I fully agree.
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    Yes, AFA has killed people. Maybe not in the U.S but they have killed at least 2 people in my country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mall Security View Post
    I agree, why not if you get treated and targeted like you killed someone what is the difference being labeled terrorist means your rights can be suspended indefinitely because people don't like Americans who protest and wear black regardless to proof of their associations.

    Yeah we have Bloods and Crips with an actual body count and they don't get that label, but let a few dipshit Alt-Right Neo Nazi's get their ass kicked for typically unknown reasons on video and suddenly OMFG terrorist.

    Terrorist wouldn't have a problem cutting their enemies heads off, a terrorist wouldn't have a problem blowing up an innocent Boston Bombing marathon or flying planes or driving busses into people.

    But yes, let's take the advice of a few hundred thousand dip ship pepe frog trolls and make citizens we don't like Terrorist, Yep as I said no escalation like that of terrorism belongs at the feet of anybody but Trumpsters, starting a War under false pretenses of a boogie man they know they made up. Alt-Right no longer have any credibility or anybody voted Trump.
    Well, it all plays into the century-old narrative of "Socialism / Communism / Anything on the Left is EVIL" that people and government alike keeps perpetuating in the US. The sum of that is that if you happen to express unpopular views and happen to be on the Left (as in the ACTUAL Left, not the faux-left of the Democrats), you are a lot more likely to get targeted by the government and law enforcement than if you did the same and was on the Right. It is blatantly biased and a glowing example of how unjust the US justice system is, but it seems to be how it will continue to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sefrimutro View Post
    I'd say people agree on the priorities. Fascism as cancer is a powerful analogy.
    But antifa is not chemo: it's the undesirable consequences. Antifa is just the hair loss, the fatigue, the nausea, that comes with it.
    When it's over, and it will be, antifa will be at the same exact spot it's always been: pathetic whiny losers, enabled by moronic romantization. Fascism will be over despite their constant attempts to undermine our efforts.
    I was going to reply with something very similar to this, but you did it better. Hate to tell you, chemo is destructive and violent and causes almost as much damage as it cures, sometimes more. Antifa is just a bunch of thugs that are to cowardice to show their faces and as far as I am concerned, no different then any other hate/terrorist/fringe group. Just go away and let the grown ups take care of things. If you honestly believe that fascism is somehow making a mainstream comeback you have been drinking to much of your own koolaid.

    Once again, I state the claim as I have many times, the media is the true enemy of this country. It seeks to divide, bait and agitate the people for its own gain with zero remorse or unbiased opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Yes, that did really happen, just from a different group essentially protesting the same thing. Are you sure you wanted to post supporting evidence of what he said?
    He was also disavowed. So, please no lying.
    LOL. This doesn't make him a liar. Micah really was inspired by BLM and black power movements and the general anti-cop atmosphere to kill cops. The sooner you accept this the sooner you can see the truth about extremist movements.
    Guess what? If you want to get rid of Antifa ... get rid of Nazis. No cancer (Nazis) no need for chemo (Antifa).
    Antifa and BLM exist in places without any Nazis. They also exist in greater numbers than Nazis and have been starting fights rather than responding to them. They're a general anarchist movement, they won't stop even if the few thousand Nazis left in the US were all gone. Remember they think something like traditional families are symbols of white supremacy.
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    MFW Antifa can't even kill someone despite ambushing them with a bike lock to the skull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yirrah View Post
    Well, nice to see you showing who you really are. Go roll a chill pill while you work on your false moral equivalencies.
    You're in no position whatsoever to be talking about chill pills, or even about showing one's true colors for that matter, after the shit show you presented in previous posts. You know, the part where you pulled nonsense about @Boomzy defending Nazis out of your rectum. Not just that, it gets even better! In an utterly laughable way, but still. Because apparently, in your glorious alt version of reality, Boomzy's defense of Nazis was "but communism..." derailment and deflection. Meanwhile, in the real world, he only joined such a conversation between you and @atsawin26 (weirdly enough with no defense of Nazis or even an actual mention of "but communist" on his own part). And what's so laughable about this?

    Because while atsawin admittedly talked about communists killing more people, his post ended with a conclusion that both Nazis and communists were shitbags. And it was you who threw a "but X" derailment shitfest where you not only carried a torch for communism with how less deadly they were "in truth" (which you supported only with Chomsky's selective brainfarts, that magically became pure fact when Boomzy pointed the flaws in your amazing source) BUT also further derailed the topic with an actual false equivalence of "but capitalism is the real evil in this case" (which you defended with mental gymnastics worthy of Paralympic gold later on).

    So yeah, 10/10 for shitposting, -∞/10 for self-awareness, integrity and intellectual honesty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blayze View Post
    MFW Antifa can't even kill someone despite ambushing them with a bike lock to the skull.
    They are willing to do violence just really awful at it... watching them lose a 8 on 1 fight is a bit embarrassing but its a good thing end of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nacixems View Post
    Sorry, Antifa is no better than KKK or any other hate group, which is what they are. body count or not. its nothing more than a hate group that wear masks of cowards. period.
    Though I agree with your sentiment, people being killed and a lot of them at that is a pretty huge thing to hand wave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blayze View Post
    MFW Antifa can't even kill someone despite ambushing them with a bike lock to the skull.
    well yeah, they take a potshot and run like the cowards they are.
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    They are domestic terrorists. Are they as bad as some far right terrorists? No. Are some people slow to label certain far right groups terrorists? Yes. You don't need to kill people to be a terrorist group. Not killing people doesn't excuse property damage or assault. Their dogmas are explicitly violent, and they are all about using violence to try and achieve their aims. Thankfully, they aren't as good at violence as far right groups.

    However it doesn't put them in the same league as certain far right groups either, killing is patently worse than what the likes of antifa have done. There are degrees of terribleness, and antifa aren't as terrible as other groups, but they still are terrible. Just as these neo nazi scum bags are terrorists, they aren't in the same league as ISIS/Al Qaeda/Boko Haram/Al Shabab, but that doesn't make them not terrorists, and just because they aren't as shitty as other groups, doesn't make them not shitty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foofoocuddlypoopz View Post
    Because a group of people with a certain affiliation are committing them while right wingers claim they're harmless... They aren't harmless and members of both groups need to be watched and punished when they step out of line. All of them happened in 2017.

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    Link me the source about the paralyzed cop...
    absurd, they commit crimes at no higher rate than other group. you are like those that single out video games as a link to crime. i bet you would find higher link to those that play video games than those that are WHITE SUPREMACIST NAZI KKK or whatever buzz word you using.

  13. #253
    Quote Originally Posted by PosPosPos View Post
    People who are upset they are treated like Nazis should not be Nazis then, instead of trying to get everyone else to change their labels.
    The problem is labeling people nazis when they aren't...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    You're in no position whatsoever to be talking about chill pills
    Really? Because given your post below, it looks to me like you could certainly need a prescription for those.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    or even about showing one's true colors for that matter, after the shit show you presented in previous posts. You know, the part where you pulled nonsense about @Boomzy defending Nazis out of your rectum.
    What else would you call it when someone is incapable of discussing the flaws of Nazi ideology and the horrible atrocities they committed without pulling out a whiny "But Communists!!!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    Not just that, it gets even better! In an utterly laughable way, but still. Because apparently, in your glorious alt version of reality, Boomzy's defense of Nazis was "but communism..." derailment and deflection. Meanwhile, in the real world, he only joined such a conversation between you and @atsawin26 (weirdly enough with no defense of Nazis or even an actual mention of "but communist" on his own part). And what's so laughable about this?
    Your twisted interpretation of the facts perhaps? No?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    Because while atsawin admittedly talked about communists killing more people, his post ended with a conclusion that both Nazis and communists were shitbags. And it was you who threw a "but X" derailment shitfest where you not only carried a torch for communism with how less deadly they were "in truth" (which you supported only with Chomsky's selective brainfarts, that magically became pure fact when Boomzy pointed the flaws in your amazing source) BUT also further derailed the topic with an actual false equivalence of "but capitalism is the real evil in this case" (which you defended with mental gymnastics worthy of Paralympic gold later on).
    It takes some kind of genius to dismiss facts as thorroughly as you are doing right now, bravo. Or maybe it's just that you refuse to read other people's posts and have no idea what this is about?

    When you use a methodology that is deeply flawed to make a claim, then refuse to accept that the same methodology can be applied to something YOU happen to support, you deserved to be called out for it. When you use that flawed methodology to deflect from the horrors of the Nazi regime , the most brutal and horrible regime and ideology this world has seen, by throwing in a "But X shows that your side is just as bad!", calling you out is an absolute sacred duty.

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    So yeah, 10/10 for shitposting, -∞/10 for self-awareness, integrity and intellectual honesty.
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    A daily reminder? So you'll be making this thread again today as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Tell that to the ones who killed nazis in WWII, or are now fighting ISIS.
    You still sure?
    There is no correlation whatsoever between lazy basement dwelling Marxists and anarchists that go to free speech rallies to pepper spray and punch random people and throw piss at cops. And patriotic soldiers that fought and died for their country in a world war. Neither is there any correlation to what ANTIFA was during its origins in Italy and across Europe, to the ridiculous organization they are today.

    And i don't know what you mean with the ISIS thing. You think ANTIFA are against ISIS or are fighting ISIS? I wish they would go to the ME and fight ISIS they would be doing something useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurata View Post
    Daily reminder that antifa body count is still 0
    not for a lack of trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    absurd, they commit crimes at no higher rate than other group. you are like those that single out video games as a link to crime. i bet you would find higher link to those that play video games than those that are WHITE SUPREMACIST NAZI KKK or whatever buzz word you using.
    The problem with me is downplaying the violence while pointing out violence from other groups at every term. Are there bigger problems sure let's point a light on all of them then but I'm not going to sweep one under the rug. A lot of white supremacist get stopped before they can even commit the act. Three of them were planning to bomb an apartment full of refugees. I'm not gonna downplaying just like I wouldn't from any other group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurata View Post
    a strategic beating
    This does nothing to defend Antifa
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    People trying to equate (anarcho-) communism to nazism are hilarious.
    Communism as a governmental system went horribly wrong, but the ideology in itself is not dishonest. Nazism on the other hand is a set of malign and vile beliefs. A fundamental difference.

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