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    Quote Originally Posted by Helltrixz View Post
    Slovenia is ok with paying Poland that money and we don't think we should make them pay a fine.

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    Who's Urban?
    Dear you, you only pay 340.7M EUR towards the EU budget and receive 939.9M EUR from the EU budget, of course you won't care because Germany, France, Italy, Benelux, UK provide nearly 75% of the budget to Poland.

  2. #42
    Sadly they joined the EU and have agreed to certain terms to have the benefits of being in the EU.

    Eventually if Poland will keep being a douche like this it might lead to the forced leaving for Poland out of the EU which would make all polish citizens mad at the goverment and then they will be forced to accept those refugees anyways. Why you ask? Because all polish people are working in EU country's for more money and send it to their family. There are huge amounts of polish people in any respectable western Europe country working the shit jobs that others do not want to and even cheaper then locals. If they would be forced out of the EU they could all be forced to leave those country's and they can all be poor in Poland again.

    This will only happen if Poland keep this up for a long time though but it will happen. One way or another the EU will win. Worst thing being that Poland has to get all previous Quotas as well so once they accept refugees they have to take a shitton in cause of their slacking the past years which would also cost their country quite some $$

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helltrixz View Post
    Like Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Romania and Czech republic. But I understand, those together are only worth 2-3 real countries like Germany anyway, right? Germany, a righteous country that will take in a ton of UNDOCUMENTED immigrants so it can virtue signal and pat itself on the back, only to threaten other countries when it suddenly has to actually deal with those immigrants it wanted to take in?

    They're talking about solidarity 24/7, which is basically EU populist propaganda. You can't force solidarity, it's voluntary by definition.

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    I'm not even sure why you're talking about EU leaders, clueless much?
    You made it seem like ours weren't elected, and the American leaders are, that's why.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Sendula View Post
    Poland calling out EU and Germany on their bullshit is a job well done for everyone bar Germany.

    Considering that pretty much every country in the union is annually paying more than they do receive the logical step would be to dismantle EU and make these moronic politicians look for a real job.
    That is patently false. Most of the EU countries get more than they receive. All numbers are here: http://english.eu.dk/en/faq/faq/net_contribution and https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2016/5...u-this-century

    Seems likely the rest of your opinions are based on crap sources too...

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by EUPLEB View Post
    Too bad that the statistics have shown that 90% of the bombings and attacks in Europe have been committed by terrorists who have been within EU for 5 years or longer, only 10% thus far have been committed by those that came in recently. Keep trying through, you are bound to find a point which you might be correct on.
    What does that mean? I'm telling the truth. If you think that's not the reason then you're too narrow-minded, obtuse and uninformed about that subject.

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    What does that mean? I'm telling the truth. If you think that's not the reason then you're too narrow-minded, obtuse and uninformed about that subject.
    You are not telling the truth, you are C L U E L E S S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mewhywhy View Post
    Sadly they joined the EU and have agreed to certain terms to have the benefits of being in the EU.

    Eventually if Poland will keep being a douche like this it might lead to the forced leaving for Poland out of the EU which would make all polish citizens mad at the goverment and then they will be forced to accept those refugees anyways. Why you ask? Because all polish people are working in EU country's for more money and send it to their family. There are huge amounts of polish people in any respectable western Europe country working the shit jobs that others do not want to and even cheaper then locals. If they would be forced out of the EU they could all be forced to leave those country's and they can all be poor in Poland again.

    This will only happen if Poland keep this up for a long time though but it will happen. One way or another the EU will win. Worst thing being that Poland has to get all previous Quotas as well so once they accept refugees they have to take a shitton in cause of their slacking the past years which would also cost their country quite some $$
    People from Poland earn just as much if they are here legally and work legally what most of them are. If they are here and avoiding paying certain taxes and get into bad situations that way as they cannot rely on the law to fall back on, i honestly really do not have that much sympathy for them. Even if they earn minimum wage here, what is a thing in western europe they would at times earn what 3 to 4 times what they would earn back home on a monthly basis.

    Taking in refugees, takes into considering how many are there and how wealthy the nation is. The whole problem is that they aren't accepting any so it isn't even a matter of how many and that will yes come back and bite them in the ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    What does that mean? I'm telling the truth. If you think that's not the reason then you're too narrow-minded, obtuse and uninformed about that subject.
    Proof that all terrorists attacks are happening from recent refugees also if you accept that, you have to accept that Islam is not a problem in the west since you also just said that nobody who has been here for a long time and third and fourth generation immigrants are not being recruited.


    So which one is it?

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by EUPLEB View Post
    You are not telling the truth, you are C L U E L E S S.
    Yes, I'm telling the truth, what is wrong with you? Do you have problem with understanding what do you read or something?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Proof that all terrorists attacks are happening from recent refugees also if you accept that, you have to accept that Islam is not a problem in the west since you also just said that nobody who has been here for a long time and third and fourth generation immigrants are not being recruited.
    Another not the brigthest crayon in the box. Read once more what I wrote, lol.
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  9. #49
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    Yes, I'm telling the truth, what is wrong with you? Do you have problem with understanding what do you read or something?
    Keep believing yourself, you'll get far in life, oh wait you won't.

    1. France, Charlie Hebdoo Shooters (French nationalities)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charli...ing#Assailants
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amedy_Coulibaly

    2. France, November 2015 attacks (Belgian and French Nationalities)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelhamid_Abaaoud
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah_Abdeslam (and his brother)


    3. Terrorist attack in Belgium (Belgian and Swedish Nationalities)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_El_Bakraoui
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Najim_Laachraoui
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Abrini
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El_Bakraoui
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_Krayem

    4. Nice truck attack (Moved to Nice in 2005).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Lahouaiej-Bouhlel

    5. Berlin truck attack (came to Europe through Italy in 2015).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_B...tack#Anis_Amri

    6. Manchester Arena (born in Manchester, lived in Fallowfield, UK).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_M...mbing#Attacker

    7. London Bridge attacks.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2..._Bridge_attack
    1st grew up in the UK and lived there.
    2nd grew up abroad, but lived in Ireland predating the Syrian crisis.
    3rd lived and worked in or around London.

    8. Catalonia attacks.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Catalonia_attacks
    1st lived in Ripoll, Spain, from the age of 4
    2nd lived and worked in Ripoll, Spain
    3rd been living legally in Spain since 2005
    4th been living in Spain
    5th unknown
    6th Been in Spain since 2002

    Let's do the math 23 total attackers:

    21 attackers had European nationalities
    1 attacker is unknown
    1 attacker came into Italy in 2015.

    So that's 91.3% of all European attacks since 2011 which were committed by attackers that lived, worked within European borders. The only thing that needs to be mentioned is that a few of them traveled between EU and Syria months before their attacks, but they were not part of the refugee streams.

    Could the numbers change in the future, of course they can, but as of right now, seems that Europeans travelling to Syria or having travelled to Syria during the conflict, being a much bigger threat than the refugees, of course, this can change, and this does not include failed of foiled terrorism plots.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Resheph View Post
    That is patently false. Most of the EU countries get more than they receive. All numbers are here: http://english.eu.dk/en/faq/faq/net_contribution and https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2016/5...u-this-century

    Seems likely the rest of your opinions are based on crap sources too...
    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/extern...efault_en.html

    Another good link too, it shows contributions from each country on an individual level.
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  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Voldemorter View Post
    good for them. one of the few countries left that respect people who died and bled to make it what it is now. those who died for their countries would turn in their graves if they saw what happened to it now.

    immigrants are parasites that destroy everything they come in contact with. just take a look at greece, sweden and france. germany is on the same path and any other nation that lets them in. only idiot would approve of it
    I find that Ironic because all I see from some UK citizens is how polish workers are horrendous.

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    Come on Poland!

    Fuck the EU and their migrant quotas.

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by EUPLEB View Post
    Keep believing yourself, you'll get far in life, oh wait you won't.
    Lol'd. Because of two thing:
    -you reading comprehension is abysmal and you don't know how to read properly, lol,
    -you started to attack me personally, because I have right and I'm 99,9% sure I'm more succesful in life than you,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Yes, I'm telling the truth, what is wrong with you? Do you have problem with understanding what do you read or something?



    Another not the brigthest crayon in the box. Read once more what I wrote, lol.
    Says the person who cannot keep up with his own statements

    Good to know that you find that there are no problems with immigrants even later generations, i disagree with that but to each their own.

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Says the person who cannot keep up with his own statements
    What statement? I just told the truth and EUPLEB don't know how to read properly, that's the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Good to know that you find that there are no problems with immigrants even later generations, i disagree with that but to each their own.
    I didn't say anything about it, lol. Stop making stupid assumptions and trying to put words in my mouth that I didn't tell.

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    It's pretty smart really.

    If they get money from Germany, the ruling parties in Poland win.
    If the Germans say no, the ruling parties can show their supporters that Germany/the EU is the bad guy and they win.

    Winner in any situation = Poland. Loser in any situation is Germany/the EU.

  16. #56
    If renunciation of reparations (based on a declaration of the 1953 communist administration in Warsaw and treaties from 1970 and 1990 with Germany) should be revoked, maybe Oder–Neisse line implemented by the Potsdam Agreement should also be reorganized?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voldemorter View Post
    immigrants are parasites that destroy everything they come in contact with. just take a look at greece, sweden and france. germany is on the same path and any other nation that lets them in. only idiot would approve of it
    Dem 'grants be evil I tell ya! /shakes pitchfork

    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    What statement? I just told the truth and EUPLEB don't know how to read properly, that's the problem.



    I didn't say anything about it, lol. Stop making stupid assumptions and trying to put words in my mouth that I didn't tell.
    I see, the terrorists are neither refugees or local immigrants from a third or fourth generation, they are OMG LIZARD PEOPLE!

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    Poland, get out of the EU while you still can. You'll have friends in the UK and US (and by extension all of our friends) after you leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    I see, the terrorists are neither refugees or local immigrants from a third or fourth generation, they are OMG LIZARD PEOPLE!
    What the hell is wrong with you. xD
    This is why Off-Topic forum should be avoided, people don't know how to read properly and then they're saying imaginary things. xD

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