Wait so azeroth now has weird shaped hole in region noone ever visits and it secretes weird liquid after it got impaled by some guy ?
*blushes*
You're misinterpreting some facts. Old Gods just dying in general isn't what causes damage to the planet, it was the way in which Aman'Thul ripped Y'Shaarj out of the crust of the world that caused the injury.
The Titans then created the race called the "Titanforged" which are what the keepers in Ulduar are, they created them to serve as a ground army against the Black Empire in order to kill the Old Gods in a more conventional way.
After Chronicle and the events in Legion a lot of the old lore doesn't make sense anymore, such as why the Old Gods were shackled instead of killed. Perhaps the Titanforged armies didn't possess the necessary strength to actually deal a killing blow? Perhaps the Old Gods can't physically die and they couldn't figure out how to end their lives - if you can call it life. "We are outside the cycle".
There's also the fact that now apparently Titans have the ability to make themselves much smaller in order to actually walk on a planet, which makes the whole war against the Black Empire rather irrelevant when they could have just shrunk down onto Azeroth at the beginning and fucked the OG's up.
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That's actually a thing with Old God-related beings.
Even the servants of Old Gods can eventually "reawaken" on their own. Death for them seems to be more of a sleep state. Oh, and this is also mentioned in Chronicles as the reason why the C'thraxxi were locked away in Prison-tombs by the Titans. Even after "death", they're capable of regenerating unassisted.Xal'atath, Blade of the Black Empire says: The cultists may try to stir him again, or he could awaken on his own. We must consume his essence to ensure he is gone forever. You know this must be done.
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You DO realize that in that video, right before the questioner asked who the next Old God is, he was asking for Blizzard to address the theory that "if the Old Gods are killed, it's doomsday" but with two down (C'Thun and Yogg), we haven't seen anything much, right? That's what the first answer is for - "Have you played any Cataclysm? You know, where the world blows up? Because of the Old Gods". The guy was even surprised (not too surprising, given Deathwing was introduced to be main character of Cataclysm and all) and asked for a reconfirmation: "Because of the Old Gods???" - which was replied with "Yes". If they (C'Thun and Yogg) were alive, the answer would be something in the line of "But they are alive!" rather than "Well, it caused the Cataclysm".
They only addressed the second question of who the next Old God is (N'Zoth) after they finished answering the first.
That's the Q&A section at Blizzcon. Additionally, we have the comic stating that "The Old God,
C'Thun, who once lay beneath the ancient ruins, is dead...". If even that wasn't enough, in-game quest (C'Thun's Legacy) told us that much from the quest text as well: "The walls of Ahn'Qiraj tremble. A force of evil, older than the world itself, has been destroyed. As you look at the remnants of the colossal abomination your heart nearly freezes. Even in death you can feel the legacy of C'Thun's evil around you".
So all in all - canonically, they are dead as stated by various sources. Whether Blizzard will retcon that or not, no one really know. However, dead powerful beings can still interact with the world - this isn't limited to the Old Gods. Also, they can be resurrected - that was the plot of the comics (Cho'gall tried to resurrect C'Thun using Me'dan's power) and Y'Shaarj almost got resurrected during SoO. It wouldn't be weird if the power of this wound ends up resurrecting C'Thun, for example. Azeroth's blood should be way way more powerful than Me'dan as he was in the comic.
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Yeah, but Medivh was brought back. Old God related creatures, such as Xal'atath and the echo of Y'shaarj, use terminology like they're just sleeping and will reawaken in time. It'll definitely be faster with some help, but it'll still happen without outside interference or something directly preventing it.
If that was the case the entire black empire would be able to resurrect on its own, the same goes for the mantid, aqir, nerubians etc. all of which were spawned from the actual flesh and essence of the old gods. The old gods don't need to be special, because nothing really dies for certain in the wow universe.
Fuck no...don't want Cataclysm 2.0 ...
Don't wanna sacrifice illidan just so the next minute we get attacked by some multi dimensional slug god...
I want a chill xpac, south seas or something...want pirate n troll etc themed raid sets not more butt ugly silithus insect armor...
They may be too weak to do it on their own. But the Faceless Generals were kept locked away for just this reason. Actually, that's exactly where all the Faceless Ones come from in the first place, isn't it? They're unearthed from where they've been sealed away. From what has been described as their "Prison-Tombs", precisely because they do regenerate. Aqir have never been described to have their flesh continue to writhe or pulse after death, but Faceless Ones have.
I really, really really hope this doesn't mean another cataclysm-style event and therefore revamp of old zones, just leave the zones alone already you screwed them up enough with Cataclysm - was my first thought.
Now I'm like, I hope this Is Instanced and we just get some juicy lore on a south sea expansion where I can finally broadside some alliance fools and become Edward Orky Kenway and raiding some fools.
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this game's lore is becoming more and more of a joke as it is. i don't want a whole expansion of fucking pirate memes. that shit can die in a fire.
it was bad enough to deal with that stupid shit in the rogue order hall. pirates are literally the lamest shit there is.
There is nothing to cause.
Again, the well of eternity was created because the titanforged couldnt deal with with y'shaarj so aman'thul had to rush in and plucked the thing out of the planet.
just Killing them just leaves behind a void energy radiating corpse, not a blood gushing wound.
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You also do realise that the guy asking the question also said everything was "in theory" yeah? that the old gods were not "dead" so much as "dealt with" yeah? I swear some of you people are being dense just to be dense at times...
You also realise the cataclysm was caused by DEATHWITH as well yeah? It was the result of him essentially exploding out of Deepholm, causing volcanoes to form and erupt, oceans to flood the land and reshaping the face of the world as we knew it? All because N'zoth, the force behind Deathwing, ordered it? Technically, yes, the world "blew up" (if you can call that blowing up...) because of an old god, N'zoth, not the supposed death of the other 2. Hell, the answer to the previous question was straight up "You havn't seen who signs Deathwing's paychecks yet!". Nothing about the death of old gods whatsoever.
And the comic? Wellllll. A: it's canonicity is highly in question by even blizzard themselves and B: As has been demonstrated before in WoW, just because the physical body of something was killed, does not mean they are in any way dead, especially when it comes to old gods. (Particularly when you consider their direct inspiration) Unless we want to ignore the entirety of Legion...
So, all in all, canonically, their fate is entirely unknown. There is absolutely no conclusive evidence of them being outright DEAD dead or still alive. Now perhaps people can stop being toxic fucks and keep their headcanon out of things here.
I agree, although I liked certain elements of Cataclysm. I liked the short stories Blizz released about each of the racial leaders and the expansion of race/class lore. I liked the introduction of zones like Uldum and Hyjal, areas that were previously mentioned in lore.
I liked the concept of a world revamp, the major problem with that being that once the Cataclysm ended the old world was still stuck in elemental destruction. I would've preferred a more timeless revamp, show the destruction of the world, but actually allow the races to rebuild.