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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Xal referred to Elune as the "goddess upstart". Elune created the naaru apparently. I derive that Elune is most likely to be the Void Gods' chief rival. Possibly Elune is a Void God that rebelled against the others and created the universe itself.
    Not sure if it helps with anything, but this is what Xal'atath has to say about Naaru.
    Xal'atath whispers: I know the naaru consider us horrors to be resisted. We do not share this view. They are merely beloved brethren that lost the true path. They will return to their masters... in time.
    "Beloved brethren" suggests she sees them as related to herself, as siblings of a sort. Who will eventually return to their masters, presumably the Void Lords in her phrasing.

  2. #62
    My money is still on either Nature spirit/Loa like Aessina and the Ancients or a Naaru.

    Of course, considering how much people like to speculate about her Blizzard might end up raising her status to something unique.
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  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by KrakHed View Post
    Not sure if it helps with anything, but this is what Xal'atath has to say about Naaru.
    "Beloved brethren" suggests she sees them as related to herself, as siblings of a sort. Who will eventually return to their masters, presumably the Void Lords in her phrasing.
    Well if you just look at the art, Naaru give the appearance of simply being reverse-phase void creatures. Like if you took the outline of a void god and brought it forward and pushed the actual void god into the background. Blizzard hasn't really said this is what naaru are, but they could be lying. They've lied before or at least altered things. The art is hinting at it.
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  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    I believe they name changed it to "Elarian Sanctuary"
    I addressed this already. The Sanctuary was renamed Elarian Sanctuary, but the area as a whole is still called Elunaria.


  5. #65
    I don't think Elune is Naaru...

    As Night Elves evolved from Trolls, why does a child of Elune and Malorne look like half Night Elf half stag while having nothing to do with Night Elves directly? The reason is obvious, Night Elves were influenced to evolve to Elunes image, but they doesn't look like Naaru, do they? So Elune must be something else...

    Personally I'm more into the theory she has something to do with Void Lords, like Light counterpart, some kind of Light Lord as mentioned in previous comments
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  6. #66
    I think she is the light equivalent of the void lords. Some would argue that's the Naaru but they don't seem powerful enough.

    Honestly, I think blizz just wrote themselves into a corner with Elune. Don't really know what she is or what to do with her.

  7. #67
    What if as a moon, she is sort of like a real life moon, which is the broken off piece of another planet that had (possibly) exploded. What if there are pieces of Elune scattered across the universe. What if Elune IS the universe. Oh man...

  8. #68
    In any case, now that we've entered cosmic scale in the lore with the Pantheon and Azeroth herself, it's about time Blizz shed some light on what Elune is. An abstract god-thing doesn't cut it anymore.
    Now you see it. Now you don't.

    But was where Dalaran?

  9. #69
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    Elune can be anything :

    A light lord, the direct opposite of a void lord, and unable to physically manifest in any physical realm.

    Or perhaps she's something beyond a light lord, perhaps the Goddess of light, which also means there must be a God of darkness, something beyond the void lords, which is very likely at this point when looking at how the burning legion and the nightmare was structured in terms of power and ranks.

    Or perhaps she's a Goddess of a specific branch, ie the light, which also means there could be more gods than just her, which complicates it even more.
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  10. #70
    You all forgot to mention that in Chronice, the dark trolls believed that Elune ''sleeps'' INSIDE the Well of Eternity! Of course, they only believe, but since Chronicle says that they discover the name Kalimdor from those ''conversations'', we are bound to believe that she has a STRONG conection to Azeroth, not the Naaru.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balinus View Post
    You all forgot to mention that in Chronice, the dark trolls believed that Elune ''sleeps'' INSIDE the Well of Eternity! Of course, they only believe, but since Chronicle says that they discover the name Kalimdor from those ''conversations'', we are bound to believe that she has a STRONG conection to Azeroth, not the Naaru.....
    Or Elune just read it from the titan artifacts around the Well like the elves did.

  12. #72
    An'she, Mu'sha(Elune), Loa its all a deeper connection.

    Trolls got Loa right. Where did the elves come from? Trolls. An'she is described as he. Elune as she. Where do Loa fit in?


    An'she is the Sun in the tauren mythology. It was the right eye of the Earthmother, torn out and sent spinning across the heavens, chased eternally by his twin sister, Mu'sha (Elune to the night elves).
    They also got The Sky Father wich is the counterpart of the Earthmother. Who that is?

    Elune and An'she being the "gods" and Loa their children. They come from the Earth Mother, mother of all things.

    Theory, one who has been discussed a bit:
    The Earth Mother is the Titan spirit of Azeroth. Perhaps the avatar?
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  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    Or Elune just read it from the titan artifacts around the Well like the elves did.
    The elves did nothing, they learned the word Kalimdor from Elune.
    Also the deal about her ''sleeping '' during daytime is a hint that she may be Azeroth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balinus View Post
    The elves did nothing, they learned the word Kalimdor from Elune.
    The former trolls also discovered the name "Kalimdor" and other titan-forged words from communing with Elune and investigating strange artifacts scattered around the Well's periphery.
    --Chronicle V1
    Interesting how people never remember that last bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balinus View Post
    Also the deal about her ''sleeping '' during daytime is a hint that she may be Azeroth!
    That's something the elves believed. That doesn't make it true.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    The kaldorei, or night elves as they would later be known, worshipped Elune, goddess of the moon, and believed that she slept within the Well's shimmering depths during the daylight hours. (WC Encyclopedia)
    The tribe's mystics began worshipping the moon goddess, Elune, who they believed was bound to the Well of Eternity itself. They claimed that the deity slumbered within the fount's depths during the daylight hours.
    --Chronicle V1

    They also believe Elune and a bunch of other true gods created Azeroth.
    Here, in intricate mosaic work, the formation of the world by Elune and the other gods was depicted, the Mother Moon of course illustrated most dominantly. With few exceptions, the gods were vague forms with shadowed faces, no mere flesh creature worthy of envisioning their true images.
    --The Well of Eternity

    Elune has never been seen in physical form on Azeroth, yet the NElves depict her as a beautiful NElf woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    The former trolls also discovered the name "Kalimdor" and other titan-forged words from communing with Elune and investigating strange artifacts scattered around the Well's periphery.
    --Chronicle V1
    Interesting how people never remember that last bit.


    That's something the elves believed. That doesn't make it true.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    The kaldorei, or night elves as they would later be known, worshipped Elune, goddess of the moon, and believed that she slept within the Well's shimmering depths during the daylight hours. (WC Encyclopedia)
    The tribe's mystics began worshipping the moon goddess, Elune, who they believed was bound to the Well of Eternity itself. They claimed that the deity slumbered within the fount's depths during the daylight hours.
    --Chronicle V1

    They also believe Elune and a bunch of other true gods created Azeroth.
    Here, in intricate mosaic work, the formation of the world by Elune and the other gods was depicted, the Mother Moon of course illustrated most dominantly. With few exceptions, the gods were vague forms with shadowed faces, no mere flesh creature worthy of envisioning their true images.
    --The Well of Eternity

    Elune has never been seen in physical form on Azeroth, yet the NElves depict her as a beautiful NElf woman.
    That is the deal, the titans are considered gods for us, and a night elf avatar is totally ok for Elune if she ever appeared. Also, why Chronicle would say something about her sleeping in the dephs of the well if it isnt related? I bet that the nelfs had lots of speculations about Elune and not all are writen in the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balinus View Post
    That is the deal, the titans are considered gods for us, and a night elf avatar is totally ok for Elune if she ever appeared. Also, why Chronicle would say something about her sleeping in the dephs of the well if it isnt related? I bet that the nelfs had lots of speculations about Elune and not all are writen in the book.
    They basically ''created'' Azeroth as we know, they shaped the world.

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    Elune has never been seen in physical form on Azeroth, yet the NElves depict her as a beautiful NElf woman.
    And this is how we portray Christian God:



    How Night Elves portray the subject of their worship, one of which they have never physically seen, has little to do how she looks in reality. If she even has a physical form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balinus View Post
    That is the deal, the titans are considered gods for us,
    No they aren't... They are godlike. The only group even close to considering the titans to be gods were the mogu.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balinus View Post
    and a night elf avatar is totally ok for Elune if she ever appeared.
    ...She has never appeared. She doesn't have a NElf avatar. It's something the NElves made up. The reason why it's included is because that belief dates back to WC3.
    The Kaldorei, or night elves as they would later be known, worshipped the moon goddess, Elune, and believed that she slept within the Well's shimmering depths during the daylight hours.
    --WC3 manual

    Quote Originally Posted by Balinus View Post
    Also, why Chronicle would say something about her sleeping in the dephs of the well if it isnt related? I bet that the nelfs had lots of speculations about Elune and not all are writen in the book.
    What you bet has nothing to do with what is stated to be the primary belief of the NElves. Just because the NElves believe it doesn't make it true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balinus View Post
    They basically ''created'' Azeroth as we know, they shaped the world.
    Except the titans didn't shape the world. The titan-forged did that. The titans only once interacted directly and that was Aman'Thul ripping out Y'Shaarj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balinus View Post
    Also, why Chronicle would say something about her sleeping in the dephs of the well if it isnt related?
    The Chronicle doesn't say anything about her sleeping in the well. It only says that the Trolls/Night Elves thought she did. It's a statement about the tribe, not Elune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justpassing View Post
    That bitch Xe'ra was supposedly created by Elune.
    It's much more likely the other way around..

    Naaru seems to have created Elune..
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    There's no reason for Cenarius to look like a night elf except it's so because of his Elune's part. Either Elune looks like a night elf or she likes to make things look like a night elf.

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