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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    You brought up the point that Trump supposedly isn't first. Let's take this one step at a time.
    You said that Hillary Clinton has done nothing to suggest that she's a warmonger...which is complete horseshit as there's a ton of evidence indicating otherwise. Let's take this one step at a time...starting with you admitting that you're wrong on this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    You brought up the point that Trump supposedly isn't first. Let's take this one step at a time.
    Trumpkins can't have a conversation that denounces the Dear Leader in any way unless they first bring up Hilary - which is, as always, Hillarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Trumpkins can't have a conversation that denounces the Dear Leader in any way unless they first bring up Hilary - which is, as always, Hillarious.
    It was zorkuus who brought up Hillary...not me. Do facts have any meaning in your world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Trump would have voted for the war, then a few months later would blame the deep state and claim he never voted for it. Him talking to Howard Stern instead of actually doing a job related to his current.:. Isn’t an excuse... When Iraq war started, liberals and conservatives agreed on how stupid and inconsequential he is. Only one of those changed, during Trump’s reality TV career shift.
    This is a great point.

    During the 2016 election you had Trump who never had public or elected position. I admit it was frustrating since once again Trumpkins and our Woke Independents would even dismiss his private/business life. So pretty much anything he said was quickly dismissed as basically 'Doesn't count'.

    Me personally hitting Hillary as a warmonger is extreme, but the criticism of the Iraq War is justified. Also as Secretary of State she was aggressive in the Obama Administration. But, again I understand that it is easier for Trumpkins to label.

    To give Trump some credit, is it seems he is pushing back against some true warmongers in Bolton and Pompeo. Now I believe Trump does love his air strikes and distance warfare to flex his power. But again, Presidents like pick the 'easy' way out without having to commit troops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    It was zorkuus who brought up Hillary...not me. Do facts have any meaning in your world?
    It wasn't me who brought up warmongering. So what you, about Trump and his warmongering?

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    Who gives a shit about Hillary, she lost get the fuck over it.

    Why is it so hard to get a direct answer from Trump supporters without some kind of deflection, its like talking to children who are in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    Who gives a shit about Hillary, she lost get the fuck over it.

    Why is it so hard to get a direct answer from Trump supporters without some kind of deflection, its like talking to children who are in trouble.
    Since discussing Trump means vacating all facts and reality, because the truth means Trumpkins have to admit what a complete shithole Trump actually is, all they have is deflection. It's Hillarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shon237 View Post
    To give Trump some credit, is it seems he is pushing back against some true warmongers in Bolton and Pompeo. Now I believe Trump does love his air strikes and distance warfare to flex his power. But again, Presidents like pick the 'easy' way out without having to commit troops.
    You shouldn’t give him credit. He chose to hire them. Somehow I don’t believe they are outliers from a staff of sycophants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    You shouldn’t give him credit. He chose to hire them. Somehow I don’t believe they are outliers from a staff of sycophants.
    Doing something that everyone could see was going to stir up shit with Iran stirred up shit with Iran? WHAT?!

    Literally no one could have seen this coming.

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    Why are we arguing about a woman who hasn't been in politics since 2016?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Why are we arguing about a woman who hasn't been in politics since 2016?
    Probably because she evaded Persident Trampfs DOJ since and hasn't been locked up yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Shows you just how wrong you can be. Trump has doing nothing to suggest that he's a warmonger.
    Minus threatening nuclear war on twitter and pretty much every single thing with Iran. As long as you ignore those then he's definitely a tree hugging, peace loving, hippy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Minus threatening nuclear war on twitter and pretty much every single thing with Iran. As long as you ignore those then he's definitely a tree hugging, peace loving, hippy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Minus threatening nuclear war on twitter and pretty much every single thing with Iran. As long as you ignore those then he's definitely a tree hugging, peace loving, hippy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    You shouldn’t give him credit. He chose to hire them. Somehow I don’t believe they are outliers from a staff of sycophants.
    Yes, he hired one of the the biggest warmongers from the Bush Administration in Bolton, which would be ironic if it wasn't anyone but Trump. Pompeo also.

    No doubt I see similarities in Trump and Bush were stupid enough to be manipulated by his cabinet. Bush much more from Cheney to Rumsfield to Bolton and more.

    People mentioned which I somewhat agree with is Trump sees conflict as transactional. Basically he doesn't want to get into a war cause it costs money and yes since he is a narcissist in costing him money in taxes. I believe he doesn't care about the troops and cost of personal lives at all. It's all about the money.

    Now I stated previously is he wants to flex, cause he is a wannabe dictator so missile and air strikes are definitely on the table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    You hear only what you want to hear. I'm still waiting for you to admit Hillary was/is indeed a warmonger.
    Where is our proof that she is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    She voted for all those wars and supported many, many military actions...along with the neocons in the Republican Party. Any attempt to frame her as anything other than a warmonger is dishonest as hell.

    And if you're looking for me to offer criticism here...it goes to those who cannot accept reality...those who rationalize their willful ignorance even after being presented with overwhelming evidence that directly contradicts their delusional beliefs.
    You tend to worship Republicans at every turn, and never seemed to have any problems with any Republican candidates up for election. Zero criticism of them being "warmongers" despite their ardent support of war. I have to wonder why it's such a problem with Hillary. Probably because she's a Democrat. But oddly enough Trump has escalated hostile relations with several nations we were fairly neutral with, bringing fears of war on many occasions.

    People who thought Hillary would declare war on anyone and everyone were saying so because of her past voting history, and could not actually provide any credible evidence as to why we'd be at eternal war under her, especially their conspiracy that she'd immediately start an incident with Russia. It was just another crazy idea from the right who wanted so desperately for her to lose. Especially hypocritical given that conservative voters have expressed nearly unanimous support of wars started by their conservative leaders in the past. You know, the ones Hillary simply voted for. Yeah, most of them were started by conservatives, and they didn't seem to have any problems with Obama's conflict either.
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    “Give me a break. This place has enough creepy old men,” said Sen. Martha McSally (R-Ariz.), referring to Washington, when asked about Moore's candidacy.
    LOL! Guess which party has the most creepy old men in Washington.

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    I think this is both comical and a reflection of faux PC war Trump is fighting:

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    More than 20,000 [redacted, forum rules] have signed a petition calling for the cancellation of Good Omens, the television series adapted from Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman’s 1990 fantasy novel – unfortunately addressing their petition to Netflix when the series is made by Amazon Prime.
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    In other news, Exhibit Four Billion as to why this administration and its conservative enablers are racist, evil sociopaths:

    The Administration is now arguing it doesn't have to provide the migrant children it has kidnapped basic necessities like soap or tooth brushes or basic bedding.

    Every last member of this administration and its enablers in Congress need to be charged with crimes against humanity and sent to The Hague to stand trial. This administration is pure evil and so is anyone who supports it.
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