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And after he personally breaks it...
It's a goddamn hostage situation. He's putting lives at risk so he can force Democrats to help him get rid of the ACA. There's times that I think he's just mentally incompetent and broken, and then there's times like this, where he shows he's literally evil.The Democrats ObamaCare is imploding. Massive subsidy payments to their pet insurance companies has stopped. Dems should call me to fix!
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2017-10-13, 11:42 AM #81The Lightbringer
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2017-10-13, 11:45 AM #82Titan
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We all saw this coming. He would cripple it just so he could brag how he is the only one that can fix what he broke.
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2017-10-13, 01:11 PM #83Bloodsail Admiral
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Originally Posted by pacox
Fake news! That's an old video, totally misrepresenting him! This is what really happened.
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2017-10-13, 01:49 PM #84Herald of the Titans
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I found this gem on /r/The_Donald (this is the only critical comment)!
What a gullible cuck. Go eat Trumpcare and die."An absolutely brilliant move". I voted for Trump and supported him but I can not fathom how somebody could possibly call putting millions of his constituents into both medical and financial turmoil anything short of repugnant.
Downvote me all you want but this decision to try and "punish" opposition at the cost of peoples lives is where i draw the line concerning political boardgames.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...oding/dob92e5/
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2017-10-13, 01:55 PM #85Scarab Lord
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That guy will be banned for "concern trolling" soon. Guarantee it. According to The_Donald, anyone who criticizes any action that can at all be related to Donald Trump is actually a secret liberal pretending to be a Trump supporter. It's one of the many ways that sub is a snowball rolling downhill all the way to hell. Originally Posted by paralleluniverse
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2017-10-13, 01:58 PM #86The Undying
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What else can you expect from a retarded man baby who wants his way.What's more, the move is projected to push the U.S. budget deficit higher -- subsidies will have to go up to meet the higher premiums -- which means higher costs for everyone, even as the system covers fewer people. In other words, Trump has identified a change that will spend more to do less.
The CBO made all of this clear two months ago. It's not as if the president can say he wasn't warned about the adverse consequences of this ridiculous gambit. In fact, it was around this time that Sen. Lamar Alexander, the Republican chairman of the Senate committee that oversees health care policy, added that if the CSR payments end, "Americans will be hurt."
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2017-10-13, 02:13 PM #87Banned
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I've been waiting for a president to deregulate medical insurance so the companies can compete across state lines for over two decades. Competition always improves price, product and service.
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2017-10-13, 02:18 PM #88Void Lord
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Cross state insurance is in ACA... not even 1 company signed up for it, because it simply isn't profitable. They cannot compete with established insurance companies in each state, who have existing contracts with healthcare providers and existing infrastructure to support it. There is absolutely no reason for insurance companies to lose money going across state lines, which is why not a single one signed up. Originally Posted by Hammerfest
You got scammed... again...Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
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2017-10-13, 02:31 PM #89Herald of the Titans
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Selling across states is allowed in ACA. Originally Posted by Hammerfest
Also, most of the big insurers like Anthem, BCBC sell in multiple states.
Nothing in the executive order is about selling across states. It's about expanding plans that don't cover essential health benefits, aka junk plans, (association and short-term plans) to siphon healthy people away, which will hike prices on the sick people who need essential health benefits. And also ending CSRs, which are payments that reduce out of pocket costs for poor people, will increase premiums by a further 20% according to CBO estimates.
Stop being a dupe.
This is all about spite, malice and inflicting mass suffering on millions of people for the sake of Trump's ego so he can say he's sledging Obamacare. It is sabotage pure and simple.
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2017-10-13, 02:32 PM #90Void Lord
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No, this is TrumpCare. Originally Posted by paralleluniverse
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
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2017-10-13, 05:36 PM #91Deleted
Great job by Trump. He should have cut those payments a year ago. So glad that he is literally destroying every thing that Obama "accomplished".
Obama was a complete and total loser. He did end-arounds on Congress that Trump is now having to fix. It sucks when you give entitlements to people because they cry and moan so much when they are taken away - and that is all that is happening here, just like DACA. Obama gave false hope to way too many people through his illegal actions and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
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2017-10-13, 05:38 PM #92Legendary!
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lol. Your boyfriend FAILED MISERABLY to repeal the ACA. So now he's signing an EO that will be overturned by courts. Originally Posted by Ransath
GREAT JOB TRUMP. Lol.Eat yo vegetables
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2017-10-13, 05:40 PM #93DeletedTrump cannot repeal ACA - only Congress can. Trump did not fail one bit, 3 RINOS decided to do that. In their absence to do so, Trump is doing what is actually in his power to do.... Originally Posted by PRE 9-11
You do not know that the courts will overturn his EO, that remains to be seen - but put your faith in the 9th, they will just overturned by the SCOTUS, just like Travel Ban.
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2017-10-13, 05:42 PM #94Void Lord
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Make himself the target of a lawsuit; one of the few things Trump is good at. Lol. Originally Posted by Ransath
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
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2017-10-13, 05:45 PM #95DeletedWell, so far he has won on the "lawsuits" against his EO's. Ask the 4th, 9th, and Hawaii how their lawsuits turned out on the Travel Ban once it got to the SCOTUS. Originally Posted by Didactic
BTW - next travel ban incoming, already sued by the ACLU and blah, blah, blah - still scheduled to go into full effect Oct. 18th.
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2017-10-13, 05:49 PM #96Void Lord
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Pretty immaterially since the ban had already expired by that point, lol. Originally Posted by Ransath
But hey, what is it to me if Trump and his deplorable followers continually expose themselves as shitheads? Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
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2017-10-13, 06:06 PM #97Banned
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no they haven't not yet anyway. you think people enjoy having things taken away from them? especially when it's healthcare? you fucking idiots have no idea how badly this is going to pan out for your bronzed Turd and the rest of his party if they don't come up with an actual replacement for the ACA. oh wait, the ones they've come up with are worse than this, see you in 2020. Originally Posted by Ransath
Infracted - Minor FlamingLast edited by Gray_Matter; 2017-10-13 at 06:36 PM.
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2017-10-13, 06:08 PM #98Scarab Lord
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The CBO already estimated the effects of cutting the subsidies:
http://healthexec.com/topics/finance...bsidies-pulled
If they were terminated, the CBO said insurers would react by raising premiums on the exchanges by an average of 20 percent next year and then rise to 25 percent by 2020. Some insurers would choose to exit the exchanges altogether, with the CBO estimating about 5 percent of the country’s population would live in areas with no ACA insurers. That would be a temporary change, the report said, with almost all areas having an available insurer again by 2020 after companies observe the changed market.The report used a scenario where subsidies would be pulled at the end of the calendar year, with the administration giving insurers enough time to price in the loss of the CSRs by announcing the change by Aug. 31. If the payments were terminated on a different timetable, such as after insurers were locked into rates which didn’t account for the loss of the subsidies, the CBO said insurers would suffer “significant financial losses.” Some companies would choose to leave markets mid-year, leaving more areas without an insurer and increasing the number of uninsured.
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2017-10-13, 06:11 PM #99Moderator
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Extra round - http://www.npr.org/sections/health-s...or-middle-clas Originally Posted by Gray_Matter
Ironically, the decision to end the $7 billion-a-year cost-sharing payments is likely to cost the federal government more than making them — nearly $200 billion over 10 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
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2017-10-13, 06:13 PM #100DeletedNobody is taking any "healthcare" away. Trump is taking illegal "health insurance" subsidies away. Excellent. Originally Posted by Sky High
Why is it that people conflate "health care" with health insurance? It is the same thing with conflating illegal aliens with immigrants. It is as laughable as it is tragic.
BTW - nice, calling me a "fucking idiot". Not that I care, but just a great example of the duplicity on this forum.Last edited by mmocc836e66a65; 2017-10-13 at 06:16 PM.
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