Mega-Thread: Mueller investigation

[PACOX]

So, who do you think will be the next to be indicted. Obviously, the good money is on Flynn.

Nope, I think Flynn has been talking. When he is charged it will be reduced. But think about it though, Flynn has just as much damning information against him and was being formally investigated before the Manafort stuff became mainstream. All the while Flynn basically fell off the face of the Earth but reporters were getting troves of information related people who be considered coconspirators. Oh man I would bet some bragging rights that Flynn has been singing.

[Bullettime]

And the hits keep on coming.

Former Trump Foreign Policy Adviser Pleaded Guilty in Mueller Probe

A former foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, George Papadopoulos, secretly pleaded guilty as part of Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, Bloomberg News' Tom Schoenberg reports.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...pleaded-guilty

Certainly will be more to come. More will start feeling the pressure now that indictments have actually been issued.

[Orbitus]

Im a "Trumpkin" as you call me, and I say lock whoever it is up if they broke the law. Im not a partisan hack who overlooks crimes in my party and insist the opposition gets locked up for the same thing. However filing charges and being guilty arent one in the same. There still needs to be a trial

Bull FUCKING Shit. You have done EVERYTHING in the past to ignore everything that Trump has done.

[Deleted]

Wouldn't it be an act of patriotism by Kelly to force the phone into Trumps hands ?

Do it John, you can be nice to the next president.

[PACOX]

Certainly will be more to come. More will start feeling the pressure now that indictments have actually been issued.

Waiting for Kushner and DonJr in a couple of months. Something is coming Kushners way depending how much info they can get out if the others, meaning the others will having to telling all for investigators to overlook allegations and knowns against Kushner (not disclosing foreign money, lying x 500 at this point).

[Orbitus]

Except Trump is being investigated so there is a difference. Hillary was let off the hook for political reasons. Had she been indicted and found innocent at trial, I wouldve let it go, but she wasnt. She was protected by partisan hacks

There wasn't enough evidence for indictment. That is the problem with you Trumpkins. That is why Comey didn't recommend charges. With the stuff for Manafort, there is. And I certainly expect him to flip as soon as he realizes he is going to spend the rest of his life in federal prison and lose all of his money.

[Draco-Onis]

Certainly will be more to come. More will start feeling the pressure now that indictments have actually been issued.

Whichever stool pigeon sings first gets the best deal.

[mvaliz]

Except Trump is being investigated so there is a difference. Hillary was....

STOP TALKING ABOUT HILLARY!

This thread has NOTHING to do with Hillary!

There's hundreds, if not thousands, of possible crimes being comitted in this country. WHat makes Hillary so special that it needs to take prescience over OUR CURRENT DUMBASS-IN-CHIEF POSSIBLY COLLOUDING WITH A FOREIGN POWER!?

Again, make your own thread for any of your other bullshit conspiracy theories about other people. this thread is about the FIRST CHARGES IN THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION!!!

[Kasierith]

This is a goddamn catastrophe for the Trump Administration. It legitimately couldn't be any worse.

Mueller is throwing the book at Manafort. Twelve counts, two for conspiracy, six for FInancial crimes, one for FARA and one for making false statements to investigators.

First of all the two conspiracy counts are just enormous. That tells us that Mueller is thinking big (Trump).

Secondly, the Financial Crimes are the sauce.

But the real issues for Trump are the next three.

False FARA Statements. FLYNN DID THIS TOO! And so did others in Trumpland. It appears that all those failures to file forms properly *looks at Jared*... yeah, "oops" is not good enough.

False Statements to Investigators. This is going to make everybody in Trumpland absolutely paranoid now. Trust no one. Everyone in the White House now has to assume everybody else is a rat.

Lastly Civil Asset Forfeiture. I hear Trump owns some buildings? That's an ominous sign. Mueller is going to take everything from these people.

Looks like he's setting up precedent for taking down others in the White House who are in a relatively more secure position than Manafort. Eerily reminiscent of how they crack organized crime. Hit the thugs with tons of stuff on their record, force a plea for a lesser sentence professing guilt to the entire stack, and then hit the money movers and such and go before the judge with "we've successfully prosecuted all these other cases pleading to this, so there is clear precedent in this circle for coming after the more circumspect ones hard."

[Paranoid Android]

Bull FUCKING Shit. You have done EVERYTHING in the past to ignore everything that Trump has done.

Dude! He is WOKE!

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There it is.

[Orbitus]

There is reason to believe he already has. And that kind of stuff doesn't happen in the US.

And he isn't even Mueller's only source anyway, which is why Russia wouldn't do it.

So yeah, brace yourself for him to sing like a canary, especially for that Conspiracy charge... and the Civil Asset Forfeiture Mueller is pursuing. Do you understand the implications of that? Mueller is going to take his entire life's work from him. He's not just going to put him in jail. He's going to destroy his family's future in the process.

That is why Manafort will cave. You chose the wrong side CostinR. You've been on the wrong side since the start.

Did you see this? https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.43ec0e477ae1

Another Trump aide George Poapadopoulos plead guilty to lying to the FBI in Mueller Probe.

Another source with a little more information:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...pleaded-guilty

[Deleted]

Did you see this? https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.43ec0e477ae1

Another Trump aide George Poapadopoulos plead guilty to lying to the FBI in Mueller Probe.

Another source with a little more information:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...pleaded-guilty

Which ties team Trump to the RIS. I wouldn't want this to happen to me on #NationalCandyCornDay

[Kujako]

There it is.

And I believe him. I do not think Trump had any idea about anything that was going on during his campaign. He never has and probably never will have any awareness of anything. Everyone around Trump however, I do think there was collusion.

[Skroe]

Did you see this? https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.43ec0e477ae1

Another Trump aide George Poapadopoulos plead guilty to lying to the FBI in Mueller Probe.

Another source with a little more information:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...pleaded-guilty

Deals. Deals abound.

The White House has no agenda anymore other than to not capsize.

[downnola]

https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...nt-Offense.pdf



Oh yes, they'll make history alright. ROFL.

[Skroe]

And I believe him. I do not think Trump had any idea about anything that was going on during his campaign. He never has and probably never will have any awareness of anything. Everyone around Trump however, I do think there was collusion.

And that's also why Trump won't go down for collusion. That'll be an object of debate for the next 50 years. Books, in 2070, will be published by historians titled "Trump Knew" or conversely "The King Who Knew Nothing".

But Obstruction of Justice though... that's a different story. Trump didn't have to "know" there was collusion to obstruct an investigation. He just has to have committed an act.

And that is what they'll go after. Proving something as abstract as "collusion" would be too tough. Obstruction? There is significant precedent for that. And in the end, that is what Trump will go down for.

[Paranoid Android]

And I believe him. I do not think Trump had any idea about anything that was going on during his campaign. He never has and probably never will have any awareness of anything. Everyone around Trump however, I do think there was collusion.

Yeah. Donny Orange Turd is a effin moron.

[Breccia]

Odds of a Sessions resignation or Manafort pardon? Both are possible options.

Not even Trump is that stupid. Trump needs Sessions more than oxygen right now: Sessions can't fire Mueller anyhow, he recused himself. In fact, while Sessions can advise -- and almost certainly is doing so -- he can't do anything about the investigation at all. And Trump knows this by now.

[Kujako]

And that's also why Trump won't go down for collusion. That'll be an object of debate for the next 50 years. Books, in 2070, will be published by historians titled "Trump Knew" or conversely "The King Who Knew Nothing".

But Obstruction of Justice though... that's a different story. Trump didn't have to "know" there was collusion to obstruct an investigation. He just has to have committed an act.

And that is what they'll go after. Proving something as abstract as "collusion" would be too tough. Obstruction? There is significant precedent for that. And in the end, that is what Trump will go down for.

My bet is on him pardoning someone, and thus getting impeached for obstruction of justice.