Mythic plus killed the raiding scene.

[Deleted]

If M+ is what people like more than raiding, whats the problem? If raiding is dying, so be it, players chose to play more interesting thing.

Same with pet battles, if people like them more than raiding, how can anyone blame them.

[Deleted]

Well raiding doesn't feel rewarding when you clear the current mythic tier 15+ times and see people who have the items you've been coining for every week at the highest itemlevel possible from lower difficulty. It's not mythicplus that's taking away from raiding, it's Titanforging.

[Marrilaife]

The raiding scene is fine

Raid designs and rewards are fine.

Obligatory meme. https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chor...20130109.0.png

Sorry, had to.

[Pull My Finger]

coz your animosity reeks bitterness

What you wrote doesn't qualify as a reply to what I wrote, neither semantically nor syntactically. I conclude that you're criminally unintelligent.

[threads]

raiding has been dying ever since they decided to give us 4 difficulties

[jiih]

only thing that killed raiding was eu wide lfgtool and stuff.

its basically except the first 2-3 weeks a zergfest from lfr up to heroic where people randomly join/leave after every boss absolutely 0 community aspect is left in this game which made WoW great.
its rare to find good guild communities anymore and enjoy raiding with. blizzard with its design decisions made every player think they are the true champion and deserve better. if something doesn't go well(=1wipe) its obviously always the others fault and you just leave and que up for the party "Hi im 945gs mage".

you will have raiding scene again with set IDs for the whole group instead personal /per boss ID and remove of the lfgtool. : )

mythic+ Dungeon have absolutely nothing to do with raiding scene if at all its the only thing worth playing nowadays because you may can find 3-4people you like between all these kids in the tool and keep playing with them

[Aaronioslo]

What you wrote doesn't qualify as a reply to what I wrote, neither semantically nor syntactically. I conclude that you're criminally unintelligent.

just as your earlier conclusions, it means nothing to anyone

[Aquinan]

Raiding's been kept alive on life support by LFR for years.
It's about time it died for good.

Yeah no...just no

[Aeula]

Raiding's been kept alive on life support by LFR for years.
It's about time it died for good.

This. I’d like to see raids axed. Or at least taken out of the spotlight (No more major lore).

[Marrilaife]

If M+ is what people like more than raiding, whats the problem? If raiding is dying, so be it, players chose to play more interesting thing.

Same with pet battles, if people like them more than raiding, how can anyone blame them.

So, if pvp participation is dropping instead of reviewing the system changes that might have caused sharp participation dropoff better kill pvp off?

Same with raiding.

Cutting out stuff instead of fixing what's broken is the lazy way. But oh well, you never know in the corpo world. Best would be of course to make various parts of the game fun and rewarding (raiding, m+, pvp, all of them not just one at the expense of other). It's not like they lack manpower and they can have different teams tackle different sections of the game.

In the same aspect as a store mount doesn't "cost us a raid tier" because it's different people developing either.

[Aaronioslo]

This. I’d like to see raids axed.

your opinion totally matters

[Aeula]

your opinion totally matters

Matters about as much as yours, buddy.

[Pull My Finger]

just as your earlier conclusions, it means nothing to anyone

Oh yes it does. It means a whole lot to you. And I understand that. You're right to throw yourself into the breach and passionately, resolutely reveal the wickedness of my ways. Imagine what could happen. People like me only understand one language - action. If you don't raise your voice now, I might continue to say things like this; that raiding needs to go. Blizzard reads these forums. If I keep on spewing these malicious words, they might go and remove raids from the game. I could kill raiding. That's why you need to keep your righteous rage alive and take the fight to the nest-foulers and pharisees.

[Barnabas]

Nope it's the same problem it's always been. You have too many guilds requiring 20 people than there are people to fill the spots. Less guilds and the remaining guilds get a larger pool to choose from.

[Rafoel]

People in this thread are weird.

[Aaronioslo]

Oh yes it does. It means a whole lot to you. And I understand that. You're right to throw yourself into the breach and passionately, resolutely reveal the wickedness of my ways. Imagine what could happen. People like me only understand one language - action. If you don't raise your voice now, I might continue to say things like this; that raiding needs to go. Blizzard reads these forums. If I keep on spewing these malicious words, they might go and remove raids from the game. I could kill raiding. That's why you need to keep your righteous rage alive and take the fight to the nest-foulers and pharisees.

do you find the irony in your own words? and I'm done with you

[Seefer]

I don't do mythic+ and I stopped raiding, why? Because I got sick of all the difficulties and bosses having more and more mechanics when there could be fewer but more punishing ones.

[Realitytrembles]

Less and fewer people raid today, with mythic + gear being easier to obtain. It's just as good as mythic raiding gear. With how the mythic + esport is going we can expect from now on Mythic + will always be a thing and it wont change other than more dungeons and affixes. I love dungeons as much as the next guy, but getting better gear from mythic raidng is a joke. The dungeons are not hard enough to where they should get better gear, until you do a 17 key the content is a joke, assuming you do it on your main.

I cant link anything because Im new, it says "You are not allowed to post any kinds of links, images or videos until you post a few times." However you guys can look up what I just said through WQ and WoW progress.

You want to know why I don't raid (outside of LFR)?

"Link ahead of the Curve"

"baddies will be kicked"

"90% attendance required"

" OMFG YOU IDIOT HOW COULD YOU MAKE 1 MISTAKE?!?!!!!?"

Not to mention I play on my schedule, no one else's.


Yeahhhh, no thanks.

[McNeil]

I doubt this is the case. I don't find raiding enjoyable because I don't like the raid itself and most bosses, to many annoying and unimaginative mechanics being reused. On top of that I really think that 4 different difficulties is completely overkill, it only needs 2 difficulties (normal and mythic) and them make LFR a scenario or something. Mythic+ is just the thing to go to because raids are lackluster this expansion, but it didn't kill them.

[Dormie]

You want to know why I don't raid (outside of LFR)?

"Link ahead of the Curve"

"baddies will be kicked"

"90% attendance required"

" OMFG YOU IDIOT HOW COULD YOU MAKE 1 MISTAKE?!?!!!!?"

Not to mention I play on my schedule, no one else's.

Because you're bad?