Should we invest more investment in undersea research and exploration?

[Doctor Amadeus]

We wouldn't be communicating via this medium without NASA (and other research that had no apparent use at the time). The web itself was developed by CERN as a means of sharing technical specifications among its groups.

Yeah well considering YouTube, Twitter and Facebook, even if that were true which I am not sold, I am not sure life without the internet, wouldn't be better off, I am sure I am probably wrong about that, but so far I am not really impressed at least not with most of it.

[Rudkobing]

*cough*Atlantis*cough*
*cough*Mermaids*cough*
*cough*whatevercaneatagreatwhitesharkinafewminutes*cough*
*cough*C'thulu*cough*

Yes, I think we should do both, actually. It would be interesting to see what we discover.

[belfpala]

Yeah well considering YouTube, Twitter and Facebook, even if that were true which I am not sold, I am not sure life without the internet, wouldn't be better off, I am sure I am probably wrong about that, but so far I am not really impressed at least not with most of it.

True, and I'm old enough to remember an age without (much) internet. Rotary phones? Check, had one as a kid.

However, back down on Earth, NASA was behind a lot materials science, used in things today such as medical devices. Solar panel and battery storage improvements. A variety of recycling technologies. The list could go a very long way.

Research with no obvious immediate use actually has a use: we learn more as a species. A secondary use is that many technologies spin off.

[Dsc]

Oh heck yes.


Positives:
Viruii kept in stasis to eliminate 3rd world populations,. ( CO2 will go down!

Lots of tasty animals to eat, grow, amd genetically engineer into cow-squids!

Better understanding of plate activity, tsunamis and volcanoes


negatives? I can't see any.

[Paulosio]

No because I’m like 90% sure there is nothing under the sea.

What does that even mean...

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Based on what?

Based on the obvious and what's already been found in what little of it has been explored.

Do you think it's just like when someone finds their way into part of wow that they aren't supposed to and it's just empty space with literally nothing there?

[Doctor Amadeus]

What does that even mean...

Meaning nothing worth exploring.

Based on the obvious and what's already been found in what little of it has been explored.

Do you think it's just like when someone finds their way into part of wow that they aren't supposed to and it's just empty space with literally nothing there?

No, I think it's space and it huge, and a complete waste of fucking time focusing on so many different area's and sucking at all of them. I am in the minority here.

[Paulosio]

And I am not convinced we are going to master space travel let alone successfully colonize worlds and life in an artificial space station sounds like Hell

Likewise. When you hear that even travelling at the speed of light it will take years to even reach the closest star...

1.I don't believe we can ever reach those speeds even considering how far we've come in the last hundred years alone.

2. Even if we do it's probably going to take centuries travelling at those speeds at the absolute minimum to reach another world that's even approaching habitable because the nearest star is HIGHLY unlikely to just happen to host a planet that's any more habitable than something in our own solar system.

3.It's 1 thing being able to get to these other worlds but in order to actually land you need to slow down from these ridiculous speeds. As an example look at the recent new horizons probe to pluto... took 9 years to get there but couldn't go into orbit due to the speed it was travelling at. For it to have done so it would have had to have travelled far slower or slowed down when it got close which would have required a massive ammount of fuel.

4.Human life spans are short and people are generally selfish. Nobody is going to be willing to sacrifice the here and now for what will happen in a few billion years when the sun dies.... An asteroid hitting earth is a very real threat and we can't even get serious investment in looking for solutions to that issue so good luck getting people to worry about something that wont happen for billions of years.

[Doctor Amadeus]

True, and I'm old enough to remember an age without (much) internet. Rotary phones? Check, had one as a kid.

However, back down on Earth, NASA was behind a lot materials science, used in things today such as medical devices. Solar panel and battery storage improvements. A variety of recycling technologies. The list could go a very long way.

Research with no obvious immediate use actually has a use: we learn more as a species. A secondary use is that many technologies spin off.

Yes, I am old enough to remember rotary phones, I loved those old heavy Ma Bell contraptions. They had weight to them LOL!

But yeah you convinced me, especially considering their could be mermaids. J/K

[Doctor Amadeus]

I'll never understand people's fascination with mermaids. Didn't Fry teach you anything?

LMFAO

Because Logic? Fuck That

Logic? Fuck That

Reason? Whatever

Mermaids? Hell YEAH lets do it!

[Elim Garak]

Rick says Mermaid pussy is awesome. gotta find the atlantis asap.

[Doctor Amadeus]

You know what the sad part of all this is that Nobody actually ever gave a shit about the internet at first until people realized you could get porn on it!


Back in the 80's they had two technologies, Beta Max and VHS, guess which one had Porn?


And then guess which one made it and survived with a sub standard technology because Porn.


The Moral of the Story is, nobody gives shit about rocks or fucking asteroids, because our lives our limited fast and hot when we are young, slow and scary as we age.


So unless their are some green people in space or mermaids under the sea, nobody is going to care!

Or maybe our second favorite hobby Violence and blowing shit up!

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I did once run a fully aquatic D&D campaign and the human anatomy was preserved with the genitals replacing just the legs and not the lower torso with a scale "pouch" covering the area like it does for certain serpents but unfolding on arousal or for urination. Yes my D&D group is pretty much perverts.

It's not just you, haha want to take the greatest minds in the world in their teens and watch their I.Q points drop like a fucking rock!




I.Q Goes down, Testosterone goes UP!

[Lahis]

Frankly, space is easier than deep seas.

Expensive, but easier.

[shadowmouse]

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

I mean, yes, of course!

[Zuben]

We have resources to go up as well as down. Planet's population grows at a faster rate than we can dish people out on rockets, so it's only wise to look into unused space on Earth.

[Ghostpanther]

The oceanic depths are a far more hostile environment than space, hence we focus on space.

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Nah the problem is that abyssal pressure can pop anything we send down there like a soda can.

I would not say far worse. Each has it's own issues.

So can space. Only it works the opposite and radiation is a serous issue to contend with in space. We do have some gadgets which can descend to great depths now. You would be surprised I am sure if you knew how deep a Boomer Nuclear sub cab go. Which is a top secret. In excess of 2000 feet is a very realistic guess. And who is saying we have to build colonies in the Ocean down to 30,000 feet?

[cubby]

Recently watched Blue Planet II (because David Attenborough is amazing) and it got me thinking about a subject I have mentioned before but Should we consider more investment in undersea research and exploration?

I suspect a number of space buffs will say no and suggest most investment should go into space exploration because we fucked the planet up but to me that's defeatist /shrug over 70% of the planet is ocean and we still haven't scratched the secrets within that could drastically improve our lives both medically and scientific

I would have to say, no. Not no to further exploration of the sea and what it has, but not drastically increasing the funding. Humanities future is in the stars. The oceans on this planet might increase our well being a little, cure another disease or two, but it won't do much for our continuation as a species.

If we're to fund exploration, it has to be space.

[Al Gorefiend]

Prolly best that we dont!

If we find anything of use down there countless countries will lay claim and then mine, farm the shit out of it till there is nothing left so its best to just leave it to nature and leave it at that.

Anyway our future lies in the stars anway.

I don't think space travel will ever happen within the realm sci-fi shows portray it.

Not only is moving an object with mass at light speed impossible by physics, even if we were to achieve light speed we'd have to have the fuel, hull, pilot and crew to survive traveling such an insane speed for ten to hundreds. Of. Years.

Traveling such a ridiculous speed for even longer than a day sounds intense as hell.

And moving faster than light is impossible. So "warp speed" is as fake of bullshit as teleportation, time travel or pills that make your dick larger.

[Lahis]

I don't think space travel will ever happen within the realm sci-fi shows portray it.

Not only is moving an object with mass at light speed impossible by physics, even if we were to achieve light speed we'd have to have the fuel, hull, pilot and crew to survive traveling such an insane speed for ten to hundreds. Of. Years.

Traveling such a ridiculous speed for even longer than a day sounds intense as hell.

And moving faster than light is impossible. So "warp speed" is as fake of bullshit as teleportation, time travel or pills that make your dick larger.

Yeah, better be content about what we have in your solar system, or be prepared to travel for centuries either in stasis or in huge liveships.

[Al Gorefiend]

Yeah, better be content about what we have in your solar system, or be prepared to travel for centuries either in stasis or in huge liveships.

If anything, humanities future lies in self-sustained biodomes.

The science of biospheres is rapidly progressing too. Safe to say within a hundred years time, Earth will look like a polluted wasteland with giant pimples full of humans scattered around it.

[Kelathos]

We should explore our own aquarium (planet), but survival requires diversification in the long term.