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    European Strategy against America

    Many of you know that I hate the European Union with all my heart. Nonetheless must I mention that there are potentially good outcomes from this pathetic organisation in case we make the best use of it while it lasts. As you know, superpowers cannot co-exist with the same might and status, and the European Union is aspiring to be such a power. All steps it is taking at the moment inevitably lead to more centralisation of power and in extension to greater might. A military project is underway.

    Because we will eventually have to go toe to toe with America, the question is how we approach the struggle. What are your ideas for how Europe can take down America?

    My take is that we divide and rule. We need to lobby in America and get their politicians to bring more migrants, so as to create a highly divided society. Then, we spread propaganda and increase the tension between the people and destroy their social unity, to the extent that they will not only have little in common, but will passionately fight against one another's interests. Then, we lobby for separatist movements and get Texas and California to secede, ultimately giving the harshest blow to the economy as well as the military of the rest of the US. This will catalyse further division across the "new America", and ultimately they will break apart in many smaller states and have to drop their nuclear weapons due to the increased difficulty in maintaining them.

    This is where we then directly step in and assert total control and dominance - politically, economically, and militarily.

    What do you think we should do about them?

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    Because we will eventually have to go toe to toe with America
    No, you don't have to go toe to toe with us if you don't want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    No, you don't have to go toe to toe with us if you don't want to.
    There cannot be two superpowers with the same interests. No way. Never.

    We'll have to assert control over weaker countries for better trade deals and military cooperation. We won't do that together. We'll also battle for resources. We don't do that together.

    We must find a way to bring you down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Just get banned already
    Nothing I said here breaks any rules.

    People are constantly making threads about how say, Russia must be destroyed. Here I am doing what is totally normal on the forum.

    Notice I didn't bash America. I am asking Europeans how we must go about to beat them ruthlessly. Got a problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirkza View Post
    There cannot be two superpowers with the same interests. No way. Never.

    We'll have to assert control over weaker countries for better trade deals and military cooperation. We won't do that together. We'll also battle for resources. We don't do that together.

    We must find a way to bring you down.
    You talk like you are one of those powerful countries to do any asserting though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    You talk like you are one of those powerful countries to do any asserting though.
    Please name a European country except Russia which is powerful enough to alone assert anything over mighty countries in the world like America. Go ahead.

    There's a reason the "powerful European countries" hunger so passionately for a European federation. It's because powerful as they are, they are globally weaker and weaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirkza View Post
    Got a problem?
    Notreally this situation is win win for me, either you don't post like a mental warmonger, or you'll wind up banned; either way makes this forum more pleasant.
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    Aren't you a ray of sunshine?! How is all this a good thing if it supposedly play out like you imagine?! If you'll lead the charge what are we waiting for?!

    Whatever you're on, me too thx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    Notreally this situation is win win for me, either you don't post like a mental warmonger, or you'll wind up banned; either way makes this forum more pleasant.
    This is a political topic. I never mentioned war as a plan.

    Find a place where I mentioned it.

    I said we must destroy America as a political entity. Not through violence necessarily, but by all the peaceful means I mentioned.

    Maybe war will be necessary. But that's Plan B. Not A.

    I don't mind being banned. I know what I say gets stuck in your minds and hearts forever, and that's all that matters.

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    Nothing needs to be done. Amurica will collapse on it's own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirkza View Post
    Please name a European country except Russia which is powerful enough to alone assert anything over mighty countries in the world like America. Go ahead.

    There's a reason the "powerful European countries" hunger so passionately for a European federation. It's because powerful as they are, they are globally weaker and weaker.
    Russia is a paper tiger. They've a GDP smaller than Italy, let alone all of the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Oberyn Martell View Post
    I doubt we'll have to.

    I predict that the USA will be conquered by China in about 50-80 years from now.

    The only thing we'll have to do is decide whether we want to take care of these millions of american refugees or not considering how xenophobic americans have been during the 20th and 21st century.
    China can never surpass America or Europe unless they collapse from within.

    China doesn't produce the same intelligent and creative people Americans and Europeans do. They have never been a real threat and never will. Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealo View Post
    Russia is a paper tiger. They've a GDP smaller than Italy, let alone all of the EU.
    They are stronger than all individual European states.

    I asked that guy which country from Europe I should be from in order to "assert anything". I want to know the answer to that myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirkza View Post
    This is a political topic. I never mentioned war as a plan.

    Find a place where I mentioned it.

    I said we must destroy America as a political entity. Not through violence necessarily, but by all the peaceful means I mentioned.

    Maybe war will be necessary. But that's Plan B. Not A.

    I don't mind being banned. I know what I say gets stuck in your minds and hearts forever, and that's all that matters.
    We are self destructing on our own. To quicken our demise, and also to protect yourselves from the fallout of our demise, gradually replace European trade to America with European trade with SE Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Oberyn Martell View Post
    China is surpassing the US military when it comes to technological advances in AI warfare. You just have to google a little bit to see many experts, military and scientist warning the USA about this.

    The USA is also on the brink of a social civil war. The Russian paper tiger is engaging in internet warfare, using it to bring the USA to the brink of civil war. And these Trumpsters and conservatives have been a threat to american culture since the beginning.
    Their tech is horrible. We should only take them seriously because they are 1.5 billion.

    Per capita/on average they are weak. Intellectually and economically, weak. Very weak. It will take an internal demise of America and Europe for China to surpass them.

    That can happen and is happening, though. Thanks to Russia, America is going downhill internally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirkza View Post
    Because we will eventually have to go toe to toe with America, the question is how we approach the struggle. What are your ideas for how Europe can take down America?
    Seriously? Well, okay...

    Sit back and let them do it themselves?
    Maybe throw a few millions at the next Trump, fund political extremists at both sides and add some money for breitbart-alike sites. I'm sure there are lots and lots of ways to tip the scales if you want an already unstable nation to rip itself to pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
    We are self destructing on our own.
    True, and once again, all thanks goes to Russia and Putin for that.

    What a great country and leader. To bring America down with your intelligence agency and not firing a single bullet is THE marvel of the 21st century. This is better and more effective than nuclear bombs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zecora View Post
    Seriously? Well, okay...

    Sit back and let them do it themselves?
    Maybe throw a few millions at the next Trump, fund political extremists at both sides and add some money for breitbart-alike sites. I'm sure there are lots and lots of ways to tip the scales if you want an already unstable nation to rip itself to pieces.
    There are many ways indeed. I am simply curious about your ideas.

    Mine is probably the best. Propaganda. Lobbying. Divide. Then rule.

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    Why you so jealous of America?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molis View Post
    Why you so jealous of America?
    I'm not. There's nothing in that country that I cannot find in my own and across Europe.

    You are simply a threat to European civilization and need to be brought down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirkza View Post

    Mine is probably the best. Propaganda. Lobbying. Divide. Then rule.
    Certainly, influencing and playing groups against eachother is the method that is cheapest and most likely to succeed. Of course, once you have triggered a civil war or other collapse, you'll have to commit troops if you want the "rule" bit as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirkza View Post
    My take is that we divide and rule. We need to lobby in America and get their politicians to bring more migrants, so as to create a highly divided society.
    Whoa whoa whoa, take a step back. Is this not exactly what's happening to Europe right now? Migrants changing your demographic makeup and creating divisions in your societies?

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