Why do playable nightborne warlocks make sense?

[Talzz]

Yo,

was looking up some stuff about the nightborne before creating my own. Can't really figure out why nightborne warlocks are a thing, as those must've started popping around after they summoned in the legion this expansion. Which to me would mean that all current nightborne warlocks would be or should be affiliated with the legion?

Can someone maybe explain this to me or am i just obviously missing something

[Deleted]

Pretty much the same thing as orc warlocks: they must've flipped sides at some point.

[Darktbs]

Thalyssra-Have you any idea to what this means champion?Disgusting is the only word i have to describe it.What difference there is between you and the Legion now?!

Warlock Nightborne- Isn't it obvious First Arcanist?I serve the Shal'dorei.

Thalyssra-Watch your clever mouth Withered!

[Deleted]

They had to learn how to be warlock when burning legion occupied Suramar.

[Aucald]

Or they're loyalists to Thalyssra that have opted to take the magic of the Legion and use it against them, or for the aims of the Nightborne people. I don't think the Nightborne would have the some proscriptions about the Fel that most other races have given their background - so long as its practitioners serve a good cause.

[Speaknoevil]

Fel magic isn't necessarily "the magic of the legion" it is just magic the legion employed, it is an extremely noteworthy distinction.

It is entirely rational to abhor warlocks and their magic even if the legion did not exist. The magic they use is inherently monstrous.

[Razion]

Whether they became Warlocks during the War of the Ancients or more recently, most Nightbrone felt forced to join the Legion out of fear of their own survival mixed with their dependency on magic. Like Blood Elves, some Nightborne would have used Fel energies as a way to satisfy their craving of magic before the fruit. Other Nightborne would understand and empathize with the fear for survival and need to feed. A poor Nightborne especially may not have been able to afford feeding by traditional means. With the Legion's defeat on Argus, it stands to reason that many remaining Nightborne Warlocks who managed to survive would turn their powers to good.

[Aucald]

Fel magic isn't necessarily "the magic of the legion" it is just magic the legion employed, it is an extremely noteworthy distinction.

It is entirely rational to abhor warlocks and their magic even if the legion did not exist. The magic they use is inherently monstrous.

I say that because the Nightborne would've learned Fel from the Legion specifically - it is the Legion's example of usage of Fel they would've learned from. Because of the nature of the Legion and its previous yoke over the vast majority of demonkind it would be impossible to separate knowledge of Fel from its association with Legion demons. But you are correct that Fel exists apart from the Legion, and predates the Legion's existence entirely - but the races of Azeroth would've still learned most of it from Legion sources.

[Aquamonkey]

What if the Legion "blocked" Azeroth's usage of fel/demons to come from the Legion itself. Kinda like Father in FMA.

[Ningjinq]

Anyone else think they should’ve let Highmountain be Warlocks?

[Directionalk9]

Anyone else think they should’ve let Highmountain be Warlocks?

It wouldn’t full on shock me, but there should a quest about folding the Bloodtotem back into the Highmountain post that zones story.

As for, Why Nightborne Warlocks? Same any race that has them quite frankly. The leaders aren’t particularly fond of them, but end the end they bring a net positive to thier goals.

[MikeBogina]

Depends on what the group/faction of warlocks is like. Are they acting like they're a secret or do they claim to fight fire with fire? I'd imagine the reason would be why those npcs are allowed. Like the Orcs, Thrall allowed the warlocks though many were out to get him and some weren't, so you could play as one.

[Devilyaki]

Maybe they befriended some of the demons and are now warlocks so they can summon their friends and adventure with them :3

[Nalorakk]

Because you spent 10,000 years in a bubble of arcane energy, got fucked up by dickheads wielding fel and thought to yourself, you know, I bet I could use this fel stuff back at them.

Also, warlocks aren't specifically fel mages.

Warlocks are also naughty boy mages, who do spooky curses instead of boring things.

[Xavator]

Because you fight fire with fire.

[Oneirophobia]

Your nightborne isn't one of the older ones, you're repeatedly identified as a youngin. It stands to reason these nightborne you play as went "oh neat, warlocks" when introduced to the outside world and decided to head down that path.


I like to think of my own nightborne demonology warlock as someone who hates demons so much she is now going to enslave them for what they did to Suramar.

[Razion]

What if the Legion "blocked" Azeroth's usage of fel/demons to come from the Legion itself. Kinda like Father in FMA.

A Warlock is liable to grab and pull any demon arrogant enough to try through the nether and shank them in the eyes while burning them alive with their own magic, and then sending the demon's charred flesh and skull back through the nether on the fuel of the dead body as a warning to the next demon foolish enough to even think about it.

Warlocks are experts in torture, exerting command, and taking demon's magic for their own. Not even Sargeras could probably block off an entire school of magic. The Legion could try as a way to stop themselves from being summoned and killed, but they're still mortal. And attracting the ire of casters dedicated to messing with your crap and pulling you out from your safe vaccum in the middle of space is exactly NOT what you want to happen. What they have to gain by corrupting races of Azeroth with Fel does far more for their goals than shutting it off would do. If anything, they would be rushing to make pacts with the most powerful Warlocks they can manage as back-up incase other races in the universe decide to get smart and start hunting them across the stars.

Normally by instinct any demon would instantly turn on a warlock if they sensed weakness. And so the Warlocks of Azeroth are more powerful and dangerous than the demons they control - by necessity. The beasts they wrangle are merciless and would kill them at a moment's notice if they weren't as unrelenting and dangerous as they were. Demon magic is by its very nature corrupting. Its this corruption and turning the demons rely on as a way to add soldiers and casters to its armies. If the Legion had its way the entire universe would be using Fel. Warlocks tread a careful line between having to choose to wield such dangerous corrupting powers for good while still enforcing the cruelty necessary to keep demons in line. But it's also worth noting that not all Warlocks align themselves good. Some would still secretly side with the Legion - and so blocking all access would also potential ruin any opportunities any secret agents of the Legion may have at majorly crippling the defenses of Azeroth. Losing a few paltry numbers to their vast armies isn't a concern for the Legion. A member of the Legion is only going to be as concerned as the skin on their own back - demons are more than willing to sacrifice each other, just like Warlocks are just as liable to do the same to any of the demons they summon.

[Trassk]

Nightborne priest makes even less sense, when most other races follow a priests path it's due to having been associated with a practice, following the light (humans, draenei, dwarves, gnomes, blood elves), a deity of more (tauren, draenei, night elves, trolls) or the shadows (trolls, forsaken). But highborne don't seem to have a structure allowing for it, they've been walled off for thousands of years and arcane is the only thing that's sustained them.

[Maleific]

Your nightborne isn't one of the older ones, you're repeatedly identified as a youngin. It stands to reason these nightborne you play as went "oh neat, warlocks" when introduced to the outside world and decided to head down that path.


I like to think of my own nightborne demonology warlock as someone who hates demons so much she is now going to enslave them for what they did to Suramar.

Or hates themself so much they spec demonology as penance for siding with Elisande.

[Aquamonkey]

A Warlock is liable to grab and pull any demon arrogant enough to try through the nether and shank them in the eyes while burning them alive with their own magic, and then sending the demon's charred flesh and skull back through the nether on the fuel of the dead body as a warning to the next demon foolish enough to even think about it.

Warlocks are experts in torture, exerting command, and taking demon's magic for their own. Not even Sargeras could probably block off an entire school of magic. The Legion could try as a way to stop themselves from being summoned and killed, but they're still mortal. And attracting the ire of casters dedicated to messing with your crap and pulling you out from your safe vaccum in the middle of space is exactly NOT what you want to happen. What they have to gain by corrupting races of Azeroth with Fel does far more for their goals than shutting it off would do. If anything, they would be rushing to make pacts with the most powerful Warlocks they can manage as back-up incase other races in the universe decide to get smart and start hunting them across the stars.

Normally by instinct any demon would instantly turn on a warlock if they sensed weakness. And so the Warlocks of Azeroth are more powerful and dangerous than the demons they control - by necessity. The beasts they wrangle are merciless and would kill them at a moment's notice if they weren't as unrelenting and dangerous as they were. Demon magic is by its very nature corrupting. Its this corruption and turning the demons rely on as a way to add soldiers and casters to its armies. If the Legion had its way the entire universe would be using Fel. Warlocks tread a careful line between having to choose to wield such dangerous corrupting powers for good while still enforcing the cruelty necessary to keep demons in line. But it's also worth noting that not all Warlocks align themselves good. Some would still secretly side with the Legion - and so blocking all access would also potential ruin any opportunities any secret agents of the Legion may have at majorly crippling the defenses of Azeroth. Losing a few paltry numbers to their vast armies isn't a concern for the Legion. A member of the Legion is only going to be as concerned as the skin on their own back - demons are more than willing to sacrifice each other, just like Warlocks are just as liable to do the same to any of the demons they summon.

Sargeras (or Kil'Jaeden) can limit knowledge and exposure. All the knowledge and demons the orc warlocks used on Draenor were from the Legion. Those demons only obeyed the orcs because Kil'Jaeden allowed it. Azeroth warlocks are derivative of those (having seen what the orcs could do) and the playable ones in WoW were originally no different.

The Burning Legion now feeds them its powers, allowing them to channel destructive energies and call upon the powerful emissaries of their demon masters. (Source)

MU Gul'dan learned this lesson the hard way when he encountered demons not ordered to obey him at the Tomb of Sargeras.

PC warlocks have certainly moved beyond that by now, but the conceit already has precedence.