Warrior level 70 gear changed.

[Omican]

Alot of our items have the agility removed in favor of strength.

On our prot tier sets we actually loose avoidance in favor of strength.

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?itemset=673

Donno if it was posted already, but couldn't find a topic regarding it.

[VeeVee]

Thanks a ton!

[Raptorg]

it's not such a big loss of avoidance tbh..

i mean, the avoidance a level 70 tank in that gear has is already quite insane

plus, lets not forget we'll be gaining 5% dodge from talents

[Tigercat]

Gaining 5% dodge, but in the process losing the dodge, parry, block, and +miss offered by 20 defense.

It's still a net gain I know, but just acting like prot warriors are getting 5% free dodge out of the blue isn't exactly the truth >.>

[mrchee]

it's not such a big loss of avoidance tbh..

i mean, the avoidance a level 70 tank in that gear has is already quite insane

plus, lets not forget we'll be gaining 5% dodge from talents

if you max out that talent... you are not speccing the best possible spec for MTing

[Tigercat]

Ok, show me what you consider to be the best then.

[Chumpp]

Not having avoidance is good for being the main tank? Are you daft? Especially with the changes to blessing of sanctuary....90000000% avoidance is a good thing, now.

[Tigercat]

Let him go Chumpp, I want the pleasure of blasting whatever half-assed spec he comes up with away myself.

[mrchee]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warr...00000000000000

Find three talent points to put into the dodge talent to fill it without reducing TPS and raid utility of the build and you get a cookie

Warbringer should make establishing positioning very easy on bosses with large aggro radii. I dunno if its worth 1% dodge but I would try it first. Imp disarm is in there because I believe blizzard said it would effect all bosses. If it doesnt, well then I get 2% more dodge.

The MTs job is not really to stay alive anymore, with the removal of CBs and such, apart from knowing when to use cooldowns like last stand and shield wall and consumables. If you have the right gear level you wont be in danger from slightly lower avoidance. 3% dodge is not a big deal to heal through, and 10% more raid damage on a 40 second cooldown along with perfect positioning every attempt outweigh it considerably.

[Blasfomy]

However, with so much strength on gear, and alot of -Threat abilities being rolled into some classes, TPS is not going to be as much of an issue.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warr...00000000000000

Seems more appropriate, though i dont have a 70 prot warrior, so i can't really say much, and i could be wrong here.

[mrchee]

However, with so much strength on gear, and alot of -Threat abilities being rolled into some classes, TPS is not going to be as much of an issue.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warr...00000000000000

Seems more appropriate, though i dont have a 70 prot warrior, so i can't really say much, and i could be wrong here.

I have a 70 prot MT an TPS is priority number one, always. BTW I think you phailed there, your link is to the same exact spec i posted

[player404]

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[Ektoplasme]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warr...00000000000000

Find three talent points to put into the dodge talent to fill it without reducing TPS and raid utility of the build and you get a cookie

Warbringer should make establishing positioning very easy on bosses with large aggro radii. I dunno if its worth 1% dodge but I would try it first. Imp disarm is in there because I believe blizzard said it would effect all bosses. If it doesnt, well then I get 2% more dodge.

The MTs job is not really to stay alive anymore, with the removal of CBs and such, apart from knowing when to use cooldowns like last stand and shield wall and consumables. If you have the right gear level you wont be in danger from slightly lower avoidance. 3% dodge is not a big deal to heal through, and 10% more raid damage on a 40 second cooldown along with perfect positioning every attempt outweigh it considerably.

Lol, you prefer two points in Improved disarm instead of Anticipation ?? Are you mad ? Can you disarm a lot of raid bosses ? yeah not so much. On the contrary 2% more dodge is priceless.

[velourea]

20 defense is nothing

[mrchee]

Lol, you prefer two points in Improved disarm instead of Anticipation ?? Are you mad ? Can you disarm a lot of raid bosses ? yeah not so much. On the contrary 2% more dodge is priceless.

Like I said, blizzard has led me to believe, several weeks ago, that you can disarm every boss now. Read my post please, dont just click on links and then flame.

[Deiphage]

What, have we all just forgotten how beneficial +Agility is on tank gear?

Last I checked, Agility increased all of the following:

+Dodge (Avoidance)
+Armor (Mitigation)
+Crit (Threat)

ALL of which are needed by tanks... why is this stat becoming "secondary" and/or being removed from existing gear?!

As a Night Elf Prot Warrior, I object! Leave my T4/5 pieces alone.

[Maenetus]

Last I checked, Agility increased all of the following:

+Dodge (Avoidance)
+Armor (Mitigation)
+Crit (Threat)

indeed it does help all those stats, but by such small amounts that you're better off trading it for more str

[nidhoggr]

You will lose some avoidance, but threat and shield block value (also some avoidance) will increase greatly. But I dont know how the gain of about 250-300 sbv will compensate the loss of the avoidance in long battles.

I personally am fine with that, because i can put on my S2 gear and will gain huge block values in PvP. But I dont know how the gear change will affect endgame raiding on lvl 70.

[Shakari]

Alot of our items have the agility removed in favor of strength.

On our prot tier sets we actually loose avoidance in favor of strength.

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?itemset=673

Donno if it was posted already, but couldn't find a topic regarding it.

Oh great there totally screwing up the lvl 70 armour wonderful going cost me a bloody fortune to make up all the lost defense way to bugger things up bliz....

[Shakari]

What, have we all just forgotten how beneficial +Agility is on tank gear?

Last I checked, Agility increased all of the following:

+Dodge (Avoidance)
+Armor (Mitigation)
+Crit (Threat)

ALL of which are needed by tanks... why is this stat becoming "secondary" and/or being removed from existing gear?!

As a Night Elf Prot Warrior, I object! Leave my T4/5 pieces alone.

I agree here, on tier gear you get 2-3% dodge from agil ....

also why the hell are they reducing the Defense on all the non-set items ..... fine give us str for more threat BUT take SBV or SBR rating off before defense .... sheesh ... beginning to get sick of blizz at this rate if I want to stay with my current gear I;m going to have to gem for defense they have removed so much defense from the items I have