Hammer of justice CD

[Baug]

im just wanna know your comments on the up of the talent reducing our stun of 6sec by 30sec ( 3/3) , cuz with the 5/5 bonus of new Arena armor its reduce by another 10sec.. did we really get Hammer of Justice with 20sec cd? im not qq ing btw im a Paly ^^

[Montoya]

For PvP, yes... yes we do.

[vegastommy]

For PvP, yes... yes we do.

And imo it's not OP.

To get that much pvp gear then respec that deep into prot where you miss out on quiet a few good talents in ret if you want that 20sec cd hammer.

However since ret is the class to whine about this week I'm sure some people will whine about it and I'm not a paladin.

[Vice]

and theres a glyph which makes it 7 seconds too. (at least there was) Anyway its things like this that make me think we can do without all the other tools other classes have (interrupt/slow/MS)

[Montoya]

Keep in mind that you HAVE to spend 18 talent points AND be wearing 4 pieces of Gladiator Gear in order to get this.

[Deleted]

My Paladin is currently 80 on beta and I love the talent when combined with the 4 set bonus. It really does make up for not having a spamable interrupt.

00/18/53 looks like the way to go.

[Marrakech]

I love how people say nice things about paladin then say ''btw i'm not a paladin'' when they clearly are. And vice versa.

[Dyo]

oh yeah? wheres the proof?


this stun is really OP now, imo it should be made 2 min cooldown like for example warlocks o-shit-button.






btw im paladin

idd , cause kidney shot also has 2 min cd right ? oh and its easily dispellable since its amgic aswell , right ?

[Jindwa]

Hoj is not OP. paladins don't have interupts,fears,charges etc. it is the only spell that lets paladins close the gap with anything they are fighting. anyone who says hoj is op needs to die in a fire then have your corpse thrown in front of a 16 wheeler truck. Most people that bitch about paladins being OP is frost mages,rogues,lock,and fukin resto druids. stfu and look at yourselves fukin dumb bitches.

[Montoya]

oh yeah? wheres the proof?


this stun is really OP now, imo it should be made 2 min cooldown like for example warlocks o-shit-button.






btw im paladin

Two minutes? Are you nutz? What's the CD on Blind? Fear? Psychic Scream? Bash? Wanna try that one again?!

[Jindwa]

oh i see... because stunning the opponent isnt part of the rogue class or because rogues can easily dispel that magic stun effect.

now i understand! its not like you could just heal yourself or make you immune to all damage.. oh wait

it is obvious that you never played a ret paladin before. stunning a opponent is part of the play style required for playing ret. you are just another silly bitch that has no clue wtf he is talking about.

[vegastommy]

I love how people say nice things about paladin then say ''btw i'm not a paladin'' when they clearly are. And vice versa.

I'm a shaman so piss off.

[Jindwa]

priest can heal and they have ccs so can druids. a smart rogue with any sense will let someone blow their trinket on a stun then blind and first aid to heal. like i said before you are just a silly bitch that has no fukin clue wtf you are talking about. most people are just mad because there is no more lolret. the laughing is over fuck face deal with it.

[vegastommy]

6 second stun every 20 seconds just isnt fair. like all other classes this should be 2-5 min cooldown (shield wall, deathcoil, evasion, blind).


And yes i happen to play paladin. season 3 drake ftw!

I'm sure it suffers from DR just like KS. However I don't really know.....

[Montoya]

oh i see... because stunning the opponent isnt part of the rogue class or because rogues can easily dispel that magic stun effect.

now i understand! its not like you could just heal yourself or make you immune to all damage.. oh wait

Cloak of Shadows?

[gatgat]

6 second stun every 20 seconds just isnt fair. like all other classes this should be 2-5 min cooldown (shield wall, deathcoil, evasion, blind).


And yes i happen to play paladin. season 3 drake ftw!

Why should it be minutes when Kidney shot isnt? The talents you list are WAY more powerful then hammer

[LrdPhoenix]

you just cant have it all. if you want ability to heal then you need to give away some damage ability.
if you want to be immune to cc then you have to give away ability to do your own cc.

like i said, you cant have it all. WE ARE DEFESIVE HYBRIDS. not some stunlock dmg class.

Paladins were originally tank/dps, at least when I started with mine, with holy being the crappy tree to go into. This "Defensive Hybrid" crap was something that they thought up years after that.

Also, if you have been paying attention, they are doing away with such archaic ideas as that.

[venom1234]

6 second stun every 20 seconds just isnt fair. like all other classes this should be 2-5 min cooldown (shield wall, deathcoil, evasion, blind).


And yes i happen to play paladin. season 3 drake ftw!

Lie more please

You are not a paladin, you are just one of those terrible players complaining about ret. You do not have an s3 drake because you are bad.

Please quit bringing stuff like this up, you and others like you are making yourselves look bad.

[venom1234]

Paladins were originally tank/dps, at least when I started with mine, with holy being the crappy tree to go into.  This "Defensive Hybrid" crap was something that they thought up years after that.

Exactly most paladins, including myself, when WoW came out were Ret.  Lawbringer and Judgement had strength, until we were forced into the holy/cleanse bot role with tier 3. 

Edit: We were cleansebots before tier 3 but tier 3 actually defined us as that.

[Marrakech]

You CANNOT compare HoJ with rogue stuns, i mean stuns are a huge part of their class. You can't say, ''we deserve 6 sec stun every 20 sec because look at all the rogue stuns!!''. Hell i DO NOT CARE if you get 6 sec stuns spammable i just care that you make a decent argument :P