WotLK Beta Build 8970

[spleeze]

You beat me shinkosh, i was just typing that same exact response

[ShinKosh]

With that change though, 3 points for 3% on a handful of abilities seems a little mince. At least Crusade isnt now a must have talent, more of an option if you want to get something else.

[Rilgon]

400+ mana per tick of serpent and 400 mana per shot is crap?

When it's making me do 50% less damage? You bet it is. Give me a talent somewhere that reduces that penalty, or scrap it altogether and give me something along the lines of Judgements of the Wise (an ability in a normal DPS rotation that restores 20% of your maximum mana? Every 8 seconds?! Brilliant!)

5% haste in PVE is also killer.

Can I have some of what you're smoking? Please? 5% haste for PVE is crap. Any good raid group will have Windfury for you, and once you have a quiver and either Serpent's Swiftness or Windfury, your Steady Shot is under 1.5 second cast. At that point, Haste ONLY affects your Auto-Shot, and thanks to the Mortal Shots nerf, Auto-Shot is now less than 25% of our DPS, meaning that 5% Haste is garbage.

[Bareno]

Anyone have an link of where I could download 8970?

[Tigercat]

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...=2000&pageNo=3

#46.

[Karadros]

Titan grip changed in the talent calculator. It has miss chance 1 to 0%.

Can we get some sort of clarification on this?

[Tigercat]

Can we get some sort of clarification on this?

I think we're all waiting right now. I'll try to be around for when the beta comes back up and can hopefully provide more insight then.

[Birds]

51 pt shadow talent is back to crap. Sigh.

[Proudfoot]

Ok so... Ret pallies have had Two hand weapon spec forever as 2/4/6% but warriors had theirs at 1/2/3/4/5%. Ours WAS better and then theirs was brought in line with ours last patch for 3 points at 2/4/6%. I was fine with that, but now nerfing ours to 1/2/3% damage of JUST weapon damage is crap. Most Ret pallies prob won't even spend the points on it now since Crusade is SOOOOO much better now.

They also nerfed Fanatasism... don't see the reasoning here. They already nerfed Judgement of Command so that it never does double damage it's just a guaranteed crit. That alone made Fanatasism less atractive. Does Blizzard not know that Ret is doing LESS damage then it should be at 80 right now?

Bad moves Blizz

[kuchsar]

Am I seeing things or did the wording on Mutilate change?

Instantly attacks with both weapons for an additional 181 with each weapon. Damage is increased by 50% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 combo points.
60 Energy, 5 yd range, Instant


I no longer see any 'Daggers required'. Can anyone with access to latest build confirm this?

edit: typo

[rothomp3]

lol.. whats the point if we will just run out of range and they have 5hp??

There's this entire facet of the game you might want to try some day. It actually makes up about 99% of the game. It's called "running instances." I find it great fun, as do many others. In this activity, five minute totems instead of two minute totems is a HUGE buff.

[Tigercat]

Beta realms are up, but the world server where my warrior is is currently down. Standby.

Edit 1: Got logged in on my shaman and checked with a warrior. The tooltip in-game just says 0%, none of this 1-0% range stuff.

Edit 2: Looks like warrior and DK glyphs are actually craftable now instead of just sitting on the profession trainer unlearnable.

[Icylobster]

lol.. whats the point if we will just run out of range and they have 5hp??

Any bonus is a welcome bonus and that five minutes is really nice depending on the situation. Its better for raids/instances over pvp because of boss fights but even in pvp it can be good. I mean 2 minutes is nothing and now they last over twice as long.

[Darv101]

MMO forgot to mention the HUGE change for pallies:

HoJ NOW a SPELL INTERRUPT!
Ghostcrawler:
"We did add the interrupt to Hammer of Justice. This was done solely so that Protection paladins wouldn't feel like they couldn't tank mobs that needed to be interrupted but were stun immune. We just think that interrupt capability crosses over the line into something that a tank needs to do his job. "

[Tigercat]

Nevermind, Titan's Grip is currently completely bugged. Got onto my warrior and the talent seems to be pretty much not functioning, can't equip anything in the offhand with a 2h in the MH.

[Metaslave]

# Chaos Bolt now deals Chaos damage instead of Fire damage.
great. so now the seemingly useless molten core just got even more useless. not to mention no more benefit from emberstorm and CoE. they better buff this spell quite a bit to make up for the loss.


# Shadowflame damage has been reduced from 310 to 338 with an additional 180 fire damage over 8 sec to 934-1020 damage with 492 additional damage

Im assuming it's the other way around :P
pretty big nerf tho, but I havent tried it so cant comment really

[sinizuh]

Dispersion doesn't increase your spell damage anymore if it runs its full duration without you taking damage.

So long dental plan.

[Darkeningsky]

Does Blizzard not know that Ret is doing LESS damage then it should be at 80 right now?

Bad moves Blizz

lol its amazing what people's whining can do, huh? dont laugh rogues...i have a good feeling your next

[Tigercat]

Seems the base crit boost given to warriors a build or two ago has been taken away again, but curiously the base HP on tanking classes seems to have been boosted.

[Ravenblade]

Improved Moonkin Aura still has 3/3 pts. and still gives 3% haste.