Alchemy < All ?!

[eu.zulu.shinthar]

sorry but alchemy just suxx?!
u have no permanet improvement, just when u have flasks/elixiers.
so....
im a shaman which gonna be melee or healer.... so which profession would be the biggest improvement?

AND YEAH THATS A Q_Q-Thread!

[Noclue]

Alchemy gives.


Alchemists get increased duration and effects from Flasks. Lasts 4 hours instead of 2 and increase the flask bonus by 50%.

Same for elixirs but gives 25% bonus.

You also get a special health pot and mana pot that can be used in Arena.

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43570
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43569
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=53042

Alchemy is pretty good for PvE and PvP.

[Promark]

While Alchemy does not give things such as extra gem slots or great equipable gear, it does provide the alchemist a good return for minimal work (provided you have an herbalist). Alchemy is one of the easiest, if not the easiest, producing professions to level. There is always a need for more potions, so the supply is there. It may not be the best choice if you seldom need to pot, but if you find yourself chugging to keep up, then it can be a good choice.

Will potion sickness effect this? We shall see.

[loopy]

I think from a reselling point of view the changes to alchemy do suck somewhat for potion masters, but as has been mentioned above, for any other mastery the benefits are actually quite nice. I won't be dropping it anyway.

[hotbanana]

Alchemy does have new good trinket for lv 80

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Alchemy gives.


Alchemists get increased duration and effects from Flasks. Lasts 4 hours instead of 2 and increase the flask bonus by 50%.

Same for elixirs but gives 25% bonus.

You also get a special health pot and mana pot that can be used in Arena.

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43570
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43569
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=53042

Alchemy is pretty good for PvE and PvP.

those potions just suck, the mana amount or hp amount cant be compared at all with your total hp or mana
the other alchemy bonuses are ok, i still wouldnt take alchemy

[Feritas]

Alch is the single best proffesion in the game for healers and DPS show me another proffesions that gives you 67 spell power... So 320 HP might not be the best thing for tanks to get, but so what! Skinning sucks for healers, LWing sucks for healers and so on..

[Isidius]

Alch is the single best proffesion in the game for healers and DPS show me another proffesions that gives you 67 spell power... So 320 HP might not be the best thing for tanks to get, but so what! Skinning sucks for healers, LWing sucks for healers and so on..

LW: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=57691, +67spellpower
BS: 3 extra gems with 23spellpower each = +69spellpower or 19spellpower for 3x blue gems= +57spellpower

but I am curious - how do alch's get +67 spellpower as their bonus? I'm missing something there

[Nezoia]

4 hour flasks, and potions useable in arena is more than enough for me.

Note to self: Respec Elixir master after patch.

[Simqn]

LW: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=57691, +67spellpower
BS: 3 extra gems with 23spellpower each = +69spellpower or 19spellpower for 3x blue gems= +57spellpower

but I am curious - how do alch's get +67 spellpower as their bonus? I'm missing something there

Sorry mate but your wrong on your numbers,

BS only get TWO unique slots, the other which is belt anyone can equip and is meant to be a minor money maker for BSers, so 46 spell power in total

LW Same again your a little off as the spell power on bracers has to be high to account for the inherent spell power enchant you can already do on bracers these do not stack. This is similar to ensription and the shoulder enchant. Only about half the item points are actual 'crafter bonus points' the rest are from the fact that if you hadnt used these 'crafter only' enchants you coulf have done some other for of other enchant.

If im wrong in any way please feel free to correct me as anything i may have missed something.

[Tasttey]

Crazy Alchemist Potions as well. Mana/health, and or other crazy buffs like haste, spell damage/spell crit.

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=40077#created-by

[Feritas]

LW: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=57691, +67spellpower
BS: 3 extra gems with 23spellpower each = +69spellpower or 19spellpower for 3x blue gems= +57spellpower

but I am curious - how do alch's get +67 spellpower as their bonus? I'm missing something there

There is also a bracer enchant so you only gain 37 spellpower from that.

To asnwer your first question 50% ekstraon flasks.

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those potions just suck, the mana amount or hp amount cant be compared at all with your total hp or mana
the other alchemy bonuses are ok, i still wouldnt take alchemy

The point for those is not to give you a big amount back, but that they aren't consumed when you use them. It's a permanent item that you can use for health or mana.

[414]

Thoght alchemy would be great but kinda discovered that to take part of the "mixology" buff for elexirs and flasks you have to be able to make em your self. I bought a Pure death on AH for my mage and didnt recive the buff but when i tryed an elexir that i could do i got it. Kinda random to have a "proffesionbuff" that is based on how lucky you are at discover recipies.

sorry for bad spelling and so on...

[OrSin]

Recipes will not be discoverable in LK. You will do dailies and get pionts to buy the recipes you want. No more luck in recipes.

[Feritas]

Thoght alchemy would be great but kinda discovered that to take part of the "mixology" buff for elexirs and flasks you have to be able to make em your self. I bought a Pure death on AH for my mage and didnt recive the buff but when i tryed an elexir that i could do i got it. Kinda random to have a "proffesionbuff" that is based on how lucky you are at discover recipies.

sorry for bad spelling and so on...

So? it might take a few weeks to learn the flasks but for the remaining time of WoTLK it will be the biggest spellpower buff any proffesion can give..

If you raid 4 times a week avg. about 50 weeks a year. That will be 200 raids where you use 1 flask less, prices will mostlikely range from 50-80 g, so lets say an avg price of 65 g that will be about 13k g worth just on flasks!
I don't really care about prices seeing i raid somewhat hardcore, atleast more than those who are still stuck in BT/MH, the most important thing is for optimising my healing output in those 4 hours we raid... Flask of the frost wyrm gives you 125 spell power http://thottbot.com/wotlk/i40082 a 50% bonus to that would be 62,5. I bet you, you won't be able to find 2 other proffesions that will increase your spellpower that much..

This really makes it a simple conclusion, Alch had a HUGE buff, and it now the best proffesion by far for both your economic and for your avg. spellcaster.. I will atleast challenge you to prove me wrong..

[Sashan]

Double duration on flasks and elixirs are more than enough reason to obtain alch.

As such you need less flasks for raiding, save gold and save farming time. Additionally you get the increased benefit from said flasks/elixirs.

The Lifeblood heal, although lacking tbh, is still a nice emergency heal/topup with no adverse affect from using.

Sure they may be "potentially" better min/maxing professions for certain classes - but as a healer Alch is still up there.

[Evereghalo]

The increased effect on flasks give very decent effects, though they could be buffed to match other profession only effects. Pots will still be needed albeit in lesser numbers. Titanium transmutes will sell very well as well.

The trinket will be good esp if it is out in the beginning of the expansion.

For the most part, alchemy will be the bastion for healing classes. at 80, then I would recommend picking up Inscription and make your Dk, a herbalist.

[coldethyl]

Either my mage is bugged or the mixology bonus to flasks is lower than 50%.

I can make flasks of pure death,when I drink one the duration is 4 hours,and it modifies the spell damage on my character sheet by 104 spell damage(i go from 1205 to 1309).Its still a great bonus,but not quite 50%(i figured extra 50% would be 120 spell damage.)Its really early here,and my math skills suck.

[Evilone]

sorry but alchemy just suxx?!
u have no permanet improvement, just when u have flasks/elixiers.
so....
im a shaman which gonna be melee or healer.... so which profession would be the biggest improvement?

AND YEAH THATS A Q_Q-Thread!

you proof that you aint have a bit of a clue about professions. alchy is almost the best you can go with. elixier for the most. not only that you get 2hours more on flasks now, which cuts your raid needs of flasks in half means safing you a whole lot of gold over the whole expension if you raid hard. but it gives you proccs friendo. its the best profession for making easy gold. grind yourself a thousand gold when expension hitted and buy herbs for lvl 80. produce flasks for lvl80. get some proccs... put the flasks in the AH. from the day the first guilds hit lvl80 you'll be rich as anyone needs flasks in the raid. bout 20-30% will buy on the ah. actually i never farmed since i got elixier alchy a year ago or so. i made so much gold with flasks. its almost 100% premium on your inputs. means you by herbs for 1k gold and you got, if you ain't to stupid, 1,8-2k gold.

i remember when bt was tha shit i went in there on a raid evening with like 150 gold on my char. came out a few hours later went to the mail box and had 4-5k gold. sunday meant pay day. produce flasks over the whole week put them in sunday morning at 7:00 for 24h and wait. most flasks will go out till 8 o'clock pm. the rest will go out when people come from the raid and need to refill their stocks. and if 10 don't sell who cares? the other 90 will sell. i can promise. and if you have big time gold somewhen. go to the ah at 5 o'clock pm and buy all flasks you find and put them in 10g higher. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ you want a shiny 25k mount with vendors on? do like i say. but you gotta keep an eye out for the competition. if they go to low stop selling flasks for a while. at least i did cause i dont wonna have 10% earning on a flasks. makes no sence to me.

so overall you can say alchy is one of the best professions. and 40 spelldmg more on flasks isn't that bad anyway.