Feral Staffs made useless after patch?

[Huffy]

While all other weapons seem to become viable for Ferals, the weapons which are now Feral AP based seem to become useless.
Am I right or have I misinterpreted Blizzards intention?
If I'm right, why would they make people enchant their weapons and go through hazzle of getting them only to make them useless a few weeks later?

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[thonga]

they are still the same, just doesnt show feral AP for other than druids

[Huffy]

Then Boubioullo does a terrible job of showing that on the frontpage..

[Stangmar]

16:30 CET - Small update on the new stats of Feral staves, Druids can now see the Feral AP value given by all weapons. (Screenshot)


seems pretty clear to me tho.. :

[Expensiveham]

Yes, blame the admin of the site for your stupidity. I guess Bou figured that druids kept up to date with their own class changes and didnt rely on what was ever on the front page.

It was posted on the front page a while ago, stating that the DPS from feral staffs would increase due to the weapons dps itself.

[Deleted]

Then Boubioullo does a terrible job of showing that on the frontpage..

No, you do terrible job reading the frontpage.

[Xombo]

No, you do terrible job reading the frontpage.

[Dooudad]

its been posted for weeks the only news from the past week that changed on them is that str has been converted to ap at a 2 ap per 1 str scale, thus giveing druids the shaft on the last major str item we had. TY Hunters and Rogues for making us now need the same treatment as shamans give us ap for agi str is useless to be based upon now for ferals. just hope it dont take an entire expantion of this bull for bliz to realize the travisty like it did with the enhancement shamans.

as far as the weapons were better off picking which ever one has the highest sta, expertase, hit, agi or ap that we can get/ need.

[Jerkist]

Yes, blame the admin of the site for your stupidity. I guess Bou figured that druids kept up to date with their own class changes and didnt rely on what was ever on the front page.

It was posted on the front page a while ago, stating that the DPS from feral staffs would increase due to the weapons dps itself.

Agreed..

People should be able to keep track on their patch notes an class changes.. Can't possiblý be anyones job to make sure all the slackers who cba to read their changes are able to understand news updaes by having to write sepeate info to them..

[Remedi]

Not useless at all, in fact more useful. I'd imagine there will be some hunters who are interested in Journey's End after the change.

[Dooudad]

Not useless at all, in fact more useful. I'd imagine there will be some hunters who are interested in Journey's End after the change.

thats just it bliz screwed up in bc and made almost all mail armor hunter friendly with agi and no str. now our staves are geting the same treatment to make them hunter friendly sorry but theres an easyer solution give hunters from freaking DROPs and leave our str the way it was. 200 ap isnt the 212 ap you would get with SotF as a druid nor the 232 you would of got with full kings on a Sotf Druid from 100 str. 200 ap is a joke, there were plenty of staves with out str on them the few that had str are now less useful just to make hunters happy. 1 ap per agi or str for druids is the only way they can make up this travisty to us.

[Byronyk]

I have a feral druid, but i no longer play him. Seeing this new change is interesting, but in no way a large change to feral dps. They said specifically that you would most likely not even notice the change to feral dps (then again, they sorta said the same thing to retri paladins lul). All this change did was allow druid staffs to be shared amoung other classes (IE hunters).

[Avermra]

Turning strength into AP isn't as big of a loss as what people made it out to be.

Strength only modifier: 1.06 (SoTF), 1.1 (Blessing of Kings), 1.166 modifier

AP only modifier: 1.2 (Predatory Strikes)

So it's actually a buff going from strength to AP, assuming the newly converted strength to ap works with predatory STrike.

[Stormrage]

Don't be a tard and forget we have non feral staff weapons now useable.

[Deleted]

thats just it bliz screwed up in bc and made almost all mail armor hunter friendly with agi and no str. now our staves are geting the same treatment to make them hunter friendly sorry but theres an easyer solution give hunters from freaking DROPs and leave our str the way it was. 200 ap isnt the 212 ap you would get with SotF as a druid nor the 232 you would of got with full kings on a Sotf Druid from 100 str. 200 ap is a joke, there were plenty of staves with out str on them the few that had str are now less useful just to make hunters happy. 1 ap per agi or str for druids is the only way they can make up this travisty to us.

do I (a non druid) have to come on your forum and tell you to chill out? wtf is wrong with you? you just got the posibility to use other weapons beside staves, yes you used other weapons before(while leveling) just for stats until you finally got a druid staff. You complain about staves that are friendly to hunters and you compare that with shamans mail? shamans mail became unfriendly for them, your staves are not unfriendly at all to you. You are so afraid that the freaking druid staves are not gonna be d/e if you have them and they drop again, or what?

You should go kiss blizzard legs because they made such a good change for you. An for other calsses to that were rolling for the same weapons. Just think how many classes roll for a damned 2h Axe. And from now on druids are rolling for 2h maces... oh. I wonder how will you scream if blizzard give you dual wield(yes that would sure be a nerf to you).

[Dooudad]

so we go from our own weapons to compeating with every melee dps there for weapons and when a staff does drop were stuck rolling vs the 2-3 hunters there isntead of just the possible 1 other feral druid. and yes str loss is a nerf. 1 ap per agi and str for druids should be put in now, we lost all str from armor and now weapons, just exactly what they did to enhancement shamans and it took them an entire expantion to admit it.

[Kathemeris]

Does cat form not give AP = to agi anymore? Or am I more ignorant than all these druids?

[Deke]

Most durid is bare amirit?

[Sereno]

so we go from our own weapons to compeating with every melee dps there for weapons and when a staff does drop were stuck rolling vs the 2-3 hunters there isntead of just the possible 1 other feral druid. and yes str loss is a nerf. 1 ap per agi and str for druids should be put in now, we lost all str from armor and now weapons, just exactly what they did to enhancement shamans and it took them an entire expantion to admit it.

It is very clear reading everything you post that you honestly have no idea how feral druids work. Congratulations on making a complaint post without actually understanding what you're complaining about. Perhaps if you took some time to understand the mechanics behind this change, the scaling of AP with your talents (hint, having AP instead of strength makes largely no difference) you would think differently.

Besides, if you honestly had any experience raiding at all you'd know that most of the time (I'd say 75% plus) feral staves wound up getting DEd b/c the feral druids had them, the resto druids had them for offspec, and they were completely useless to everyone else.

[Nalla]

Dont know why there are several threads on this 1 topic, but I supposed its all to do with being OP or something. Yes as feral druid the removal of str is a nerf but look at the bigger picture, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40406 wouldnt be looked at previously by druids but after patch will give something like 203.7 DPS which would equate to (203.7-55)*14 which is Feral AP bonus of 2081 (plus the other stats and if my calculations are correct (waits for several posts on my calculations being wrong)). Yes it does mean some of our staffs will be picked up by hunters etc, but also means we have a bigger variety too