Malygos with COH and WG nerf?

[Jdiggidy]

I was just curious how the 6sec nerf to COH (circle of Healing) and WG (wild growth) affected healing the vortex of Malygos? Obviously you cant spam these abilities anymore like before so how does lifebloom, rejuv, renew, etc hold up? 20,000 damage over 10sec's is a lot to deal with + the fall damage.

[nalle]

Think they said something about reducing the damage from vortex but i'm not 100% sure

[Shapeshiftr]

We have a lot of restoration druids in our guild, so healing the vortex damage with 3-4x Rejuvenations is fine. Though I sometimes use the Wild Growth just for the sake of safety.

[Venara]

Blizzard has stated that if they think this nerf directly affects raid groups doing Malygos, meaning that they suddenly can't beat him anymore, they will consider adjusting the encounter.

[Lady Jane]

I was just curious how the 6sec nerf to COH (circle of Healing) and WG (wild growth) affected healing the vortex of Malygos? Obviously you cant spam these abilities anymore like before so how does lifebloom, rejuv, renew, etc hold up? 20,000 damage over 10sec's is a lot to deal with + the fall damage.

I agree this will be an issue for guilds or pugs where not everyone is in the best gear unlike some guild runs. Blizzard stated they would implement this nerf because it is a valid one, and I agree, nothing makes me roll my eyes more as priests and druids with 80%+ on their CoH or WG on the healing list...
Anyway, they stated that they would keep close track of things, if Shamans were now the healing class to take because of CH spam over druids and priests, they would correct that.
If encounters would become to hard (Malygos) or certain situations they would correct that as well. For now we'll have to do with it being the way it is because it was argued that guilds did manage these fights without CoH priests or WG spamming druids altogether.
In my opinion these were guildruns and the pugs/half pugs will just have to deal with it for now. For the last 2 Maly tries Ive been trying to work as if my CoH had a 6 sec CD, but its hard to measure when other priests and druids just love to spam their IWIN button

Guess we'll have to see

[Shapeshiftr]

I agree this will be an issue for guilds or pugs where not everyone is in the best gear unlike some guild runs. Blizzard stated they would implement this nerf because it is a valid one, and I agree, nothing makes me roll my eyes more as priests and druids with 80%+ on their CoH or WG on the healing list...
Anyway, they stated that they would keep close track of things, if Shamans were now the healing class to take because of CH spam over druids and priests, they would correct that.
If encounters would become to hard (Malygos) or certain situations they would correct that as well. For now we'll have to do with it being the way it is because it was argued that guilds did manage these fights without CoH priests or WG spamming druids altogether.
In my opinion these were guildruns and the pugs/half pugs will just have to deal with it for now. For the last 2 Maly tries Ive been trying to work as if my CoH had a 6 sec CD, but its hard to measure when other priests and druids just love to spam their IWIN button

Guess we'll have to see

I guess so, I usually cast 3xWG during Vortex phase myself, but lately I've been trying to mix it up with some Rejuvenations as well. Looking forward to testing it later tonight, to see if there's going to be some changes in the raid setup etc.

[Jdiggidy]

Blizzard has stated that if they think this nerf directly affects raid groups doing Malygos, meaning that they suddenly can't beat him anymore, they will consider adjusting the encounter.

Thank you for the clarification. So has anyone attempted Malygos yet? And if so have you noticed any issues healing through the vortex? I know It hasnt even been a day since the patch release, but again just curious?

[Mikki]

Well I have been ready to adjust my healing style ready for this change.
I have reinstalled Lifebloomer ready to start rolling over 8/9 people.

WG accounted for about 40 to 70% of my healing depending on the encounter and the job I was asked to do.

But with things like Vortex all you do is run a single stack LB on people with the lowest health b4 Vortex and it will Bloom while they are flying and do allot more healing than Rejuv will ever do.

[Jdiggidy]

it was argued that guilds did manage these fights without CoH priests or WG spamming druids altogether.

I would love to see a video on how that would be done.

[Shapeshiftr]

Well I have been ready to adjust my healing style ready for this change.
I have reinstalled Lifebloomer ready to start rolling over 8/9 people.

WG accounted for about 40 to 70% of my healing depending on the encounter and the job I was asked to do.

But with things like Vortex all you do is run a single stack LB on people with the lowest health b4 Vortex and it will Bloom while they are flying and do allot more healing than Rejuv will ever do.

Yeah, but it all depends on your raid setup. Since we have 3-4 restoration druids using Rejuvenation is just as good imo.

[dragontat002]

I never had a problem healing malygos before the nerf. Just throw a rejuv on everyone you can while malygos is taking flight above you, and if you have time, hit them with a bloom. Being that you can still HoT up while in the vortex, it's not a problem. Wild Growth is a nice safety but it's not really a necessity for that fight.

Having everyone above 18k health buffed helps as well to buffer the damage.

[Trikas]

We do Malygos with two disc priests and one druid and we have no problems.

PoM & Holy Nova is enough.

PoM 5 Sek bevor Vortex come, and during Vortex PoM again -> 10 Persons healed

With a second disc 20. and HolyNova will heal the rest, how never get a PoM during Vortex

[Croente]

We do Malygos with two Diszis and one Druide and wie have no problems.

PoM & Holy Nova is enough.

PoM 5 Sek bevor Vortex come, an during Vortex PoM again -> 10 Persons was healed

With a scend Diszi 20. and HolyNova will heal the rest, how never get a PoM during Vortex

alcohol is bad, mate

[Venara]

We do Malygos with two disc priests and one druid and we have no problems.

PoM & Holy Nova is enough.

PoM 5 Sek bevor Vortex come, and during Vortex PoM again -> 10 Persons healed

With a second disc 20. and HolyNova will heal the rest, how never get a PoM during Vortex

Fixed some of your spellings. German i guess? ^^

Anyway, Holy Nova is inferior to PoH. Spamming HN while Vortex is like saying "Yay, take my mana, don't need it anyway".

Personally i've been throwing around PoM and Renew (only 10man version) while finishing things off with CoH. Guess i'll be using PoH now when Vortex ends.

[Shapeshiftr]

I never had a problem healing malygos before the nerf. Just throw a rejuv on everyone you can while malygos is taking flight above you, and if you have time, hit them with a bloom. Being that you can still HoT up while in the vortex, it's not a problem. Wild Growth is a nice safety but it's not really a necessity for that fight.

Having everyone above 18k health buffed helps as well to buffer the damage.

Well we're at approx. 23-25k health buffed.

[Jdiggidy]

it was argued that guilds did manage these fights without CoH priests or WG spamming druids altogether.

I found this video on youtube where a holy pally and a resto shammy healed it. A lot of help from the shadow priest in my opinion, but whatever they got the job done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPUrzWWIC_4

[AetherMcLoud]

We never had healing priests on our malygos kills (we only have shadows) neither on 10 nor 25 man. Only druids and shamans healing. Never had a problem with vortex.

So CoH at least isn't needed and IMHO Wild Growth never was as OP as CoH anyway.

I always put out a few shields while vortexing as a shadow priests, and if shit hits the fan, give out a few ProMs. More than enough.

[Trikas]

Fixed some of your spellings. German i guess? ^^

Anyway, Holy Nova is inferior to PoH. Spamming HN while Vortex is like saying "Yay, take my mana, don't need it anyway".

Personally i've been throwing around PoM and Renew (only 10man version) while finishing things off with CoH. Guess i'll be using PoH now when Vortex ends.

Yep, German^^

Yes, HN is inferior to PoH, but i have Raidbuffed 25k Mana, with MT-Heal (my function) i have no Manaprobs, so i can use often HN without troubling with Mana.
Also we gain Mana back from Crits, so with 25% Crit is the gained Mana enough to not troubling with Mana with HN.

Also you PoM Crits restore Mana and if you keep the CDs up, then there are no Manaproblems

PS: Sry, i hope it is understandable, i'm from german :P

[proga]

Blizzard also stated that big part of raids did Malygos without priests or druids as healers at all, so what's the problem?

[Rosalyne]

Did Maly last night. Had 3 priests in raid, 3 shamans and a druid... Since we had some problems with the lag (apparently, blizz didn't fix it), only part 2 was giving us problems. The vortex phase was fine with renews, PoM and druid/shamans helping in. As soon as we land, the druids were spamming their chain heals on raid, which works.

Only thing that bugs me though is that CoH can't be used at all during the Vortex phase, which is a little stupid. We should be able to use it even with the 6 seconds cooldown (which isnt all that bad).

Working as intended? Hmm...