Guilds with only priest healers is the likely future of WOW

[Daedalon]

With the coming dual spec - priests will be the dominating force in healing. WIth a switch of a button they go from a top single target healer to a top grouphealer. No switching gear - nothing. It has already been announched that a raid of healing priests only should be able to do the 25 man content. That is offical from GC. 7 healing priests could become the norm. 9 healing priests in each guild. Thats alot easier to manage than to have 3 druids (2 get spot) 3 shamans (2 get spot) and 2 Palas (1 get spot). 9 Priests can easily switch around (2 taking time out each night) and you will never have to bother aobut changing strategies cause you dont have the exact healing classes to manage.

Gratz Blizzard on great job making WOW about one healing class only !

[darkhybridx]

Gonna be tough progressing without bloodlust, abolish poison, BoPs.

Not to mention you still going to want 2 spriests in the raid, have fun trying to gear up 9 priests on a once a week raid.

Your QQ is more fail then other QQs.

[streamster]

Agree with Daedalon only priest healers you sir are a moron lol simple as that.

[Torture]

So when a guild gets an app from a resto shaman (for example) you honestly see them saying "No, we're holding out for 8 more priests".

Seriously, do you believe there are 9 priests out there for every single guild?

Now, DPS being worried because a hybrid DPS (shammy, paladin, spriest, durid) can swap to a healing spec for some bosses, that's a far more valid concern.

[Daedalon]

Gonna be tough progressing without bloodlust, abolish poison, BoPs.

Not to mention you still going to want 2 spriests in the raid, have fun trying to gear up 9 priests on a once a week raid.

Your QQ is more fail then other QQs.

BLizzard has stated you only need priests as healers to do the content. Its not my idea. Secondly - Priests get same sets as paladins. You only need 2 of those. Rest balances out on its own when you skip the other healing classes. Its not any harder to gear up 9 priests than 9 healers of split classes.

[Joarrak]

Gonna be tough progressing without bloodlust, abolish poison, BoPs.

Not to mention you still going to want 2 spriests in the raid, have fun trying to gear up 9 priests on a once a week raid.

Your QQ is more fail then other QQs.

Why can't dps use bloodlust and abolish poison, its not just the healers that are responsible for things like that. They only downfall is if plate/mail/leather healing gear drops, but that can just to another healing class for off-spec so its not wasted.

IDK if this is likely, but sure its possible to happen. There could also be 7 druids, 7 shamans, or 7 paladins healing and it would probably work out fine.

[Breia]

i had to register just to reply to this.

Seriously what? just because one class MIGHT be better, won't make everyone reroll priest. I know for sure that will never happen to my guild. This could very well be happening right now, if your guild only consists of holy/disc priest, then thats what you are going with (although i dont see this very posible). This is actually what blizz wants: roll with what you have, no fights have been made to count in x players of y class, except for Instructor in Naxx25...

So no. just no. this won't be the case, unless you have no other option (but then you should really start recuiting new players to bring more diversability...)

[vigilpriest]

Yes because healer viability is measured strictly by throughput, and neither utility nor player skill is a factor. Because no one wants an extra blessing, another innervate/battle rez (assuming you have a feral/moonkin that can pop out and do it), or a bloodlust/heroism...no...those are definiately no reason to bring other classes. Not to mention having 9 of one class on a tier piece token fighting over gear isn't going to cause problems.

[Cormias]

Daedalon do what you want but no one is going to bring 7 priest healers to a raid.

Its not any harder to gear up 9 priests than 9 healers of split classes.

Ever heard of random epics from bosses, like healer plate boots, leather bracers etc? They are gonna be hard to put on a priest but not on a druid or paladin.

Your QQ is more fail then other QQs.

QFT

[vigilpriest]

Daedalon do what you want but no one is going to bring 7 priest healers to a raid.

Ever heard of random epics from bosses, like healer plate boots, leather bracers etc? They are gonna be hard to put on a priest but not on a druid or paladin.

This. Full naxx 25 clears since December 1st every week. Never seen the multiclass BiS Healing Mace. Period. And yes other classes can abolish/decurse/dispell and such...but it's much easier to get a player that is used to looking at health bars to do it.

[Daedalon]

So when a guild gets an app from a resto shaman (for example) you honestly see them saying "No, we're holding out for 8 more priests".

Seriously, do you believe there are 9 priests out there for every single guild?

Now, DPS being worried because a hybrid DPS (shammy, paladin, spriest, durid) can swap to a healing spec for some bosses, that's a far more valid concern.

Paladin swapping healing gear and doing DPS ? You do know that same paladin needs totally new set of items to do any dmg ? Or to tank... Shamans and druids can do that to some degree but their enchants and gems will prevent them to be competitive. Healing priests dont need to swap out one item - still they are twice as viable as any other healing class. It will take time to sink in but this is what is and will happen.

Atm there are not 9 healing priests with every guild. BUt there will be soon if they are so viable.

Think of it this way... You have 4 tanking specs. If one spec had the best single tanking ability and another spec of the same class had the best multitank ability ... then why bother trying to balance the 4 tanks to make them all viable for tanking when 1 tank is needed ?

9 priests sounds alot yes... how about 1 of the each other specs and 5-6 priests ? Problem is... if you have 1 of each other healing spec then you need another one for backup and then they are sitting out 50% the time.... So why bother ?

Now - should any guild have more than 4-5 ppl playing the same class ? Everyone knows this calls for alot more priests beeing in every single guild than any other class. If you can't see that then you will probably get a job at BLizzard !

[thoukaia]

well for one thing, 7 priests will never make Maexxna because they cant dispel poison.

other than that, even if priests top healing meter, its because they actually make full use of their heals, unlike paladins whose 70% of total amount healed is passive(glyph of holy light, judgement of light, bacon of light), so paladins out there, if your scared that the priests will pwn you in Recount, then you really gotta l2p.... cause even after the patch, priests will NOT outheal paladins of equal skill and gear

[Bramickias]

LOL ... nice trolling.
Lets see how far it goes.

[Nemolol]

daedalon, you're a complete retard.

[Sanguissa]

Wow that was just retarded topic.

You could say same about drood with theory SO MUCH HOTS THAT NOONE WILL DIE LOL!

You could say same about paladins LOL BEACONS EVERYWHERE HL HL HL !

Iam not that sure only about shamans

[Deleted]

lol

hf gearing up with only cloth..

can work nicely in naxx..

but wont work at all later on when you need alot better gear to progress, in the tougher instances

[palamina]

No switching gear - nothing.

i just want to point out disc & holy do not share gear

spirit being the main stat thats different

[Fenixdown]

With the coming dual spec - priests will be the dominating force in healing. WIth a switch of a button they go from a top single target healer to a top grouphealer. No switching gear - nothing. It has already been announched that a raid of healing priests only should be able to do the 25 man content. That is offical from GC. 7 healing priests could become the norm. 9 healing priests in each guild. Thats alot easier to manage than to have 3 druids (2 get spot) 3 shamans (2 get spot) and 2 Palas (1 get spot). 9 Priests can easily switch around (2 taking time out each night) and you will never have to bother aobut changing strategies cause you dont have the exact healing classes to manage.

Gratz Blizzard on great job making WOW about one healing class only !

I play a priest. And even I know that this topic is complete bull.

There isn't a SERVER in this game where you will find enough priests on one faction side to fill every healing requirement of the top five guilds on that server. That's, by your math, 45 healing priests. I play on Skullcrusher and I don't even KNOW 45 healing priests, and I've been on this server since pre-BC. So does this mean nobody's going to raid after 3.1?

Get your head out of your arse, dude, and use some common sense.

[Deleted]

hf gearing up with only cloth..

[Jovianne]

Nine priests per guild just for switching between Disc and Holy healing will -never- happen.

Simply because no guild is going to sit out their experienced healers just because they "only need" priests. Just isn't going to happen. It's been noted that Disc isn't quite up to where it should be for healing, and while Holy supports both AoE and single target healing, it's not the best in either, and so priests, when it comes to healing, take on the old druid saying of "Jack of all trades, master of none."

Yes, raiding with only healing priests will be possible-- will it become the norm? No.

Why does this dual-spec change seem to favor priests in regards to healing? Because we have two possible healing trees, not because we're the better/best healers. Personally, I would rather outfit a raid in resto druids and paladins, simply because of fights like Thaddius, where you can sit all but two healers and let the rest switch to a dps spec.

Raids aren't going to drop their tried and true healers for more priests just because it's possible to get away with them. They're going to keep their resto druids, resto shammies, and holy paladins because they know they can get the job done. Priests will be in raids just like they have been since the beginning of BC-- and will continue on to be thus in the future.

And as far as gear goes, it will be harder to gear out nine priests over a mixture-- because there is no such thing as "Healer only" gear anymore. Other clothy dps classes can benefit from the upgrades as much as a healer can, and seeing as the only other cloth users are spell dps classes, then gearing will take much longer, unless you go with a full melee/leather caster group. Nine priests just because they look more "Versatile" is just, well, a fruitless idea. In the time it takes for that raid to gear up everyone and clear through content, other guilds with different sorts of healers will have finished and moved on-- Blizz seems to like gear-check fights, and I don't honestly think a nine priest raid will make it quickly.