Shockadin Spec Viable again?

[Scaldin]

I was lookin at stuff, currently ingame and on PTR. With the changes pallys have seen/are going to see, would Shockadin be viable again?

Im lookin at a spec like this:
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?pala...0&version=9614

Holy shock, Judgment, Exorcism, Holy Wrath, Shield would all be main attacks. Maybe using Seal of Righteousness.

Specced and Glyphed, Holy shock looks around 40% crit on a 4 sec CD. Tier 7 items give 10% more effect. Im seeing it hit for 5k and crit for 10k. Judgment on a 9s CD, exorcism down to 10, Wrath at 20, shield same as always. More instant attacks than Ret, most of which are buffed by SP and Int.

On top of all this, We are still available to heal very easily.

thoughts?

[meroko]

Holy shock would be 5 second cooldown, the glyph reduces by 1 second not 2.

I don't really think it's viable nontheless, I can put out some decent DPS as it is with Holy (around 1.8k) but it would never be even close to good enough for raids.

[TDSlôl]

You're forgetting that Retribution grants SP from AP, which is the very thing that makes our judgements so much more potent.

I'm intrigued though, I think I might have to play with this come PTR time.

[Hysterix]

For pvp maybe, if you get the glyph for exorcism to act like an earth shock, pve probably not.

[fex]

<--- currently 2k+ as 37/0/34.

Holy/ret hybrids have already been doing great, these changes are icing on the cake. :]

[Scaldin]

Ya, im thinkin it would work good. Admittedly shockadin is one of the specs blizzard dislikes, much like the old DK specs that didnt go past 41 pt talents in any tree. And we saw what happend to them. They all got nerfed.

Being that 2k sp is easy in 25 man gear. and our spells get more benefit from sp then ap (as holy, i know ret gets sp from ap) I think these buffs would be great. Also it gives me the means of convincing the guild that Im first in line for the Legendary mace. lol

[Offhand]

<--- currently 2k+ as 37/0/34.

Holy/ret hybrids have already been doing great, these changes are icing on the cake. :]

Armory link please.

[belfpala]

Shockadin is a great spec for people who don't want to maximize their potential in any role.

[Offhand]

Shockadin is a great spec for people who don't want to maximize their potential in any role.

Quoted for sig worthiness.

[Burk]

The spec you link looks meh

imp cons and ret aura?`you can only use one of the, so go 51/0/20

Armory link please.

would be this link i think

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...=Nazgrel&n=Fex

but wrong gear and spec only name and rating looks right

[Arkaiya]

Armory link please.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ther&n=Fisherr

One of the best PvPers on our server uses the 37/0/34 spec.

[Blitzblade]

the exorcism glyph doesnt silence anymore.

[fex]

would be this link i think

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...=Nazgrel&n=Fex

but wrong gear and spec only name and rating looks right

That's me - I respec a lot. :}

The spec you link looks meh

imp cons and ret aura?`you can only use one of the, so go 51/0/20

I switch between Ret and Conc auras as needed, often as many as 4-5 times a match. I need both improved. :}

[shockpally]

Dont use the talent builder. It's incomplete. A 52/00/19 build is about as good as holy damage gets while still being a full on healer. Seals of the pure, JotP, Holy guidance, purifying power Holy shock and Enlightended Judgments along with the Ret talents are about as good as you can get and still be able to heal anything.

After that you start trading off healing talents for deeper ret which help out some. Not worth giving up deep holy IMO.

[fex]

It pretty much depends on who you play with.

With a squishy partner like a rogue or SV hunter, I often roll deeper into holy to keep them up longer, but when pocket healing a warrior or a DK, I go deeper into hybrid for the CC, crit, and offensive capabilities.

Also, no paladin should be PvPing without Divine Purpose. :{

[shockpally]

It pretty much depends on who you play with.

With a squishy partner like a rogue or SV hunter, I often roll deeper into holy to keep them up longer, but when pocket healing a warrior or a DK, I go deeper into hybrid for the CC, crit, and offensive capabilities.

Also, no paladin should be PvPing without Divine Purpose. :{

They think different

Divine Purpose has been moved from Tier 5 to Tier 6.

[Uggorthaholy]

Shockadin is a great spec for people who don't want to maximize their potential in any role.

quoted because this IS my sig now.

[fex]

Shockadin is a great spec for people who don't want to maximize their potential in any role.

Because, you know, who would ever want to be versatile in PvP?

[pyromatic]

It looks like there is always going to be mixed reviews regarding the shockadin, I've never tested it before, but I will definately talk to my GL when I hit 80 about letting me run nax with it and see how it goes.
Has anyone tried it yet, say dps on patchwerk comes to mind, has anyone got any stats for it? yes i know it's for 3.1, but as far as the spec as it stands now, it would be really good to see some numbers. It seems like it should only go up from here right?

[pyromatic]

I'm guessing nobody has these numbers? Looks like I might be the first one then, i'll post when i get there