ap or agi enchants now for tanking?

[lostdruid]

as druids having already a big amount of dodge maybe it's better now to invest to ap enchants for better use of SD instead of agility with it's diminishing effects ?
Specially for weapon.

[Seffo]

Agility effects your armor, it effects your dodge, it is effected by kings (which will be a baseline talent for pallies now), and most important is it effects crit. You cant get a shield if you don't crit. So you want as much as that as possible. Plus Druid gear has lots of strength so you'll get enough AP from that.

[lostdruid]

i was thinking that since we are stucked with lvl70 enchants for weapons that 115ap or 400ap proc may be more useful.

[Seffo]

Yeah the 115ap would be nice but not the 400ap... Im guessing thats the Beserking Enchant you are talking about and if so you have to remember that lowers armor by 25% which if that procs at the wrong time during a boss you are gonna get wrecked.

But I would only not use agility for weapon and even then Im still probably keeping mongoose.

[Leipäkone]

Yeah the 115ap would be nice but not the 400ap... Im guessing thats the Beserking Enchant you are talking about and if so you have to remember that lowers armor by 25% which if that procs at the wrong time during a boss you are gonna get wrecked.

But I would only not use agility for weapon and even then Im still probably keeping mongoose.

3.0.9 change was that berserker only lowers your armor by 5%.

[Seffo]

Oh I knew there was a 5 in there somewhere :P but yeah with the nerf to our armor again I would still be over having it.

[Chúckienorris]

I stick to agillity enchants.

[Lotaru_man]

Hey im not too sure bout the str vs agi argument..

but i was wondering is mongoose still a viable enchant for a druid tanking weapon?

[getefix]

Plus Druid gear has lots of strength so you'll get enough AP from that.

Where's the Str on my T7? On my leather gear? on my cloak? on my weapon?....
Unless you meant rings... in which case the http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40474 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43993 are our BiS rings.... but no Str...
Neckpiece? BiS is http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44664...looks like we've boiled down to trinkets...
How many trinkets have Str on them? Exactly one: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42987. It's very expensive and not by any means considered "Druid Gear". In fact, Druids have been repeatedly encouraged to go for the Agility one as it's useful for tanking and we'll never have more Str than Agility.

AP on a weapon instead of Mongoose?
Assuming you mean Massacre, and not Berserking (reduce armor by 5%, NO!), then that's a passive 110 AP (25% of this is 27.5 AP, donating 27.5 damage absorption to the shield).
When Mongoose procs, it's 120 Agility for 15 seconds. I'm not sure what the average uptime is, but I'll assume 30%. so that's roughly 40 Agility. With SotF, that makes it 40 * 1.06 = 42 agility. This is equal to 1% dodge, and 0.5% crit.

I'm about to go to sleep and I don't want to do any more math. I think you can see that 1% dodge, 0.5% crit absorption is definitely superior to 27.5 hp absorption.

EDIT: changed the AP, thanks koumaru. I still say Mongoose > Massacre.

[Ocueto909]

**cough cough** with IMoW in 3.1 technically if you put your points rights won't it be 40 *1.08 or 40 *1.02*1.06 which both roughly give 43 agility, I know its minor , but still

[Koumaru]

With SotF, that makes it 40 * 1.06 = 42 agility. This is equal to 1% dodge, 0.5% crit, and 42 AP (resulting in about +10 hp damage absorption to the shield).

Bears do not receive attack power from agility.