Trash spec 3.1 mage

[pukenas]

Hi im thinking about trash spec for a mage (as dual spec a second one,my main is ffb) Its have to be somthing about blizzard spamming, maybe with master of elements to get mana back, can u guys give me some tips or examples about it, thanks

[Davvv]

lol wtf?

[pWr]

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#oZcAc...ubMoZhI0Ic0uhc u could try this maybe

[Hunterwep]

I dont know mage specs but here is an idea that might help you get what you want:

Trash doesnt need the WTF hit amount that raidbosses need, so you might replace some hit gear for pew pew to help you with your trash trashing

[skryl]

the trash in ulduar isnt supposed to be nearly as "aoeable" as the naxx trash was. if you're still working through naxx, it isnt a bad idea if everyone in your raid does it.

i would do this: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?mage...0&version=9767 for fastest possible trash clearing. i picked glyph of mana gem for quick recovery after a pull.

[rathok]

honestly... just spec FFB and take dragon breath+ insta-flame strikes. You'll probably lose like 1-2% damage from talents but you'll do 4k dps on trash easy and still be competitive for the bosses.

[mgp84]

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#of0Vc...uVu0Got:Lfwk0z

Use Mage Armor instead of Molten Armor. Never go OOM even while AoEing. Trash clearing (quickly) is all about recovery.

[lolitsmagic]

Go Arcane and Flamestrike x1 then spam Blizzard. Does good aoe dps on trash.

FFB has been getting alot of complaints lately, wouldnt recommend specing it for 3.1.

If you have 13/14% hit and lots of haste to spare, go TTW/FB and use Living Bomb + Flamestrike spam or Flamestrike/Blizzard spam.

[Jonisawsom]

Go Arcane and Flamestrike x1 then spam Blizzard. Does good aoe dps on trash.

Not sure if it's more dps to do the FS or not, but as 57/3/11 spec, that's what I do and it seems to work well for me as well.

@OP. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#of0q0...ZhIccsfu0f0xbo

The points in fire/frost should give you the most aoe dps. Not sure how much trash can be snared, but water elemental is a small dps boost, as well as throwing out their frost nova for the extra crit against frozen targets. The points in arcane are pretty flexible, but extra int/spirit for more mana/regen/crit. I went to PoM so you can do PoM - Flamestrike - Blizzard.

If you want to go all out, don't forget to use CDs like icy veins, cold snap, water elemental, mirror images, on use trinkets, mana gems etc. It's just a spec I threw together in about 30 seconds so I'm sure there's room for improvement, but it's a start.

Edit: Took out the glyphs that were from another spec. On that note though, you could go with mage armor or molten armor depending on the mana needs. Also glyphs for frost nova (taking more damage so more possible crits), water elemental, or mana gem are all decent.

[lolitsmagic]

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#of0q0...ZhIccsfu0f0xbo

This might be the most retarded spec I've ever seen. Please dont post mage specs ever again.

[Romanoo]

lol

[Jonisawsom]

This might be the most retarded spec I've ever seen. Please dont post mage specs ever again.

What exactly is wrong with the spec as far as a trash spec? First off, read my post. I stated that I did that in about 30 seconds and there was probably room for improvement but of course there's always at least one idiot that will come in and prove their ignorance.

There is only so many talents to pick up for aoe damage so the rest is basically filler. Basically every point in frost improves aoe damage. Took 8 points into fire for 6% more crit on flamestrike and blizzard. Took more spirit and int in arcane (which will also give more crit). Even you stated to do FS then blizzard, thus going all the way to PoM in arcane.

OP wanted a spec specifically for aoe and then on boss fights he'd switch back to his single target spec. Instead of insulting people, why don't you give us a spec/rotation that's going to do more dps?

[lolitsmagic]

OP wanted a spec specifically for aoe and then on boss fights he'd switch back to his single target spec. Instead of insulting people, why don't you give us a spec/rotation that's going to do more dps?

Specing for AOE trash is dumb. Period. Hence the end of this thread. Any mage should spec for single target DPS and off-spec PVP, unless they think they can off-spec PVE Frost for some reason.

This being said, the OP should now know that specing for trash is stupid, and in no way will make him/her a better mage.

[Dominate]

Probably because that would imply actually being constructive, rather than just needless trolling.

Again picking up on the point that trash dps isn't worth much - I'd personally do a arcane spec with TotW and an FFB spec for mana draining fights, or even a pvp spec but meh... each to their own

Bearing in mind that Ulduar trash as about as aoeable as the dark touched in Naxx... you want ranged aoe really. but then if you go for an aoe spec being able to kite would probably be a good thing. Also mana efficiency, lowered threat, etc etc

This is what I can come up with, bearing in mind I havent played a mage in 2 years but I still read up on them a fair bit;
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#of0Vch0hZfMcbRhIuVurMkt

Flame me if you want - I gave up on the mage class a long time ago. Points in pyroblast, fiery packback etc are to either get abilities or to build up single target threat so you dont get aggro and die. Arcane is to get arcane meditation so with pyromaniac you get 100% mana regen whilst casting - similarly taking master of elements tries to make this a mana friendly aoe build.

My only tip would be... well 2 tips. Firstly IMO you'd regret an aoe build where you could go for a mana friendly build and a max dps build, or a pvp one. This seems a little excessive. Secondly would be to work out which spells you use and base a spec round that - having not played a mage in so long my experience is based on what burned down Hyjal trash fast.

[Jonisawsom]

Specing for AOE trash is dumb. Period. Hence the end of this thread. Any mage should spec for single target DPS and off-spec PVP, unless they think they can off-spec PVE Frost for some reason.

This being said, the OP should now know that specing for trash is stupid, and in no way will make him/her a better mage.

It's dumb because you say so? So maybe no one in any group should ever aoe, because clear trash with aoe is dumb? Maybe he wants to clear trash as fast as possible. Why does he have to off spec pvp, because again you say so? Some people never do any pvp (or pve for that matter), so who are you to tell them how to play their toon and what their off spec should be?

Clearing trash is just as important as clearing bosses, and if it wasn't blizz would just take the trash out of instances already (you can't get to the bosses without clearing the trash). Taking a spec purely for aoe may not be the best idea, but if it's something you want to do/try then go for it. The 57/3/11 spec already does a good amount of aoe dps but it could be higher if you are really looking to maximize it.

[Blikje]

Specing for AOE trash is dumb. Period. Hence the end of this thread. Any mage should spec for single target DPS and off-spec PVP, unless they think they can off-spec PVE Frost for some reason.

This being said, the OP should now know that specing for trash is stupid, and in no way will make him/her a better mage.

Sorry oh mighty god, sorry for not playing the way you command us to. We had the impression we where free to do with our game as we wish to but we now see our error. We shall not dissapoint you again!

Spread the word! Every mage has to pvp so needs a pvp as dual spec and aoe specs are not approved at all!

Edit: fixed bad quote

[lolitsmagic]

lol...if you dual spec AOE/single target dps thats fine by me, but why do that when any well constructed raid will aoe mobs down fast anyways? I find it a waste of 1000 gold.

Any of the high dps builds will produce the DPS needed for trash. Period.

Just because I say so? No. It's because any raiding mage should be able to AOE mobs and do respectable DPS without a "AOE spec".

I invite you to armory the top ranked mages in the US and see their dual specs. Go ahead...I'll wait.

[Jonisawsom]

Sorry oh mighty god, sorry for not playing the way you command us to. We had the impression we where free to do with our game as we wish to but we now see our error. We shall not dissapoint you again!

Spread the word! Every mage has to pvp so needs a pvp as dual spec and aoe specs are not approved at all!

It always amazes me when someone tells other people how to enjoy their game and what they should do with the time they pay for. If the guy wants to spec for aoe then let him right? Didn't say it was a must, just gave him some ideas.

@Arixina.
Thanks for saying exactly what I just said. You can already put out good aoe dps with the viable raiding specs, but it could be higher. Who cares if you think it is a waste of 1000g? It's his gold, let him spend it.

I don't care about the top ranked mages, and I'll tell you this without looking at any of them. There is going to be different single target specs. Some will dual spec pvp, some will dual spec pve, and some won't dual spec at all. In an ideal situation yes a "well constructed raid" will have good aoe dps. Maybe he doesn't have the "optimal" raid setup and wants to pull more aoe.

Whatever the reason it doesn't matter. Stop posting just to post. Half of the time you post it's just quoting someone else in the thread with nothing else to add.

[Blikje]

It always amazes me when someone tells other people how to enjoy their game and what they should do with the time they pay for. If the guy wants to spec for aoe then let him right? Didn't say it was a must, just gave him some ideas.

@Arixina.
Thanks for saying exactly what I just said. You can already put out good aoe dps with the viable raiding specs, but it could be higher. Who cares if you think it is a waste of 1000g? It's his gold, let him spend it.

I don't care about the top ranked mages, and I'll tell you this without looking at any of them. There is going to be different single target specs. Some will dual spec pvp, some will dual spec pve, and some won't dual spec at all. In an ideal situation yes a "well constructed raid" will have good aoe dps. Maybe he doesn't have the "optimal" raid setup and wants to pull more aoe.

Whatever the reason it doesn't matter. Stop posting just to post. Half of the time you post it's just quoting someone else in the thread with nothing else to add.

Intended to quote Arixina's previous post:

Specing for AOE trash is dumb. Period. Hence the end of this thread. Any mage should spec for single target DPS and off-spec PVP, unless they think they can off-spec PVE Frost for some reason.

This being said, the OP should now know that specing for trash is stupid, and in no way will make him/her a better mage.

Big screwup indeed

[lolitsmagic]

if you dual spec AOE/single target dps thats fine by me

I'm quoting myself and I have nothing else to add.