Did yogg-saron actually die?

[Darknore]

???

It simply cannot be possible that he died in Ulduar, althought wowwiki refers to him as "Killed" not "Defeated". His influence can be felt everywhere in Northrend and knowing that it feels like impossible that he could be so easily killed. Did we only defeat one of the "thousand maws" or this was his main body( Which I find very unlikely). If we compare him to C'Thun, who had absolutely no influence outside his Temple, and his influence inside was only his voice. Yogg-Saron seems to be much more powerful than he is ...

Anyone knows?

[shailiha]

Killing an old god would destroy Azeroth, which is why the titans left them alive. So I'd say he's alive somewhere still.

[Rozmetal]

All Oldgods and demigods are immortal, they cannot die

[Spl4sh3r]

Probs only his Avatar

[Uuker]

He died, but will return 100%!!




Next week.

[procne]

afair killing old god wouldnt result in destruction of world or universe. it would only mean death of most of the living creatures which were created as a result of old god's curse of flesh

[romek]

Ulduar was merely a set back.

[NextMMO]

Yes, it's dead.

[Soulfacter]

He died, but will return 100%!!




Next week.

Crazy! We know

[velourea]

Ulduar was merely a set back.

this

[Soxes]

WELCOME TO ZUL'DUAR


Mechanical Trolls? Yes pl0x

[Azagoth]

afair killing old god wouldnt result in destruction of world or universe. it would only mean death of most of the living creatures which were created as a result of old god's curse of flesh

Old Gods are parasites and Azeroth is the host. Killing them would destroy Azeroth, the planet. Granted, killing one or two out of however many may not be catastrophic.

As far as I remember, C'Thun in AQ40 was either an avatar or in a weakened state. I assume it's the same with Yogg-Saron.

[IamAbraham]

Note though what his final speech is from the encounter:

Your fate is sealed. The end of days is finaly upon you and ALL who inhabit this miserable little seeding. [Some crazy old-god speak here]

Now I subscribe to the "Old Gods are immortal" and "he isn't dead just defeated"...

But consider for a moment; what if he was killed? Nowhere did it say that Azeroth would cease to function, crash and burn, immediately. A lot of what I'm seeing posted here is just largely educated assumptions.

Kil'jaeden is forced through the portal, dropping an amulet on the way out (which contains the loot). This boss fight (as with C'Thun I realise) ends with a corpse of what you were fighting to be looted.

To summarise, although I largely agree that he isn't dead, I can't help but think that his death-speech indicates that in just defeating him, we've done the one thing that the Titans would not do, and this "end of days" is exactly that. Remember that Titan time-scale is much larger than Azeroth mortal. They planet hop loads and spend 'brief stints' on each planet, which to an Azeroth mortal are thousands of years. So whatever a Titan would consider a consequent-apocalypse could, from a mortals perspective, be years to come.

[Deleted]

there is one old god dead and you seen his corpse if you ever played on alliance side, so i dont see why Yoggy cant die

[Shaamwow]

Note though what his final speech is from the encounter:
Now I subscribe to the "Old Gods are immortal" and "he isn't dead just defeated"...

But consider for a moment; what if he was killed? Nowhere did it say that Azeroth would cease to function, crash and burn, immediately. A lot of what I'm seeing posted here is just largely educated assumptions.

Kil'jaeden is forced through the portal, dropping an amulet on the way out (which contains the loot). This boss fight (as with C'Thun I realise) ends with a corpse of what you were fighting to be looted.

To summarise, although I largely agree that he isn't dead, I can't help but think that his death-speech indicates that in just defeating him, we've done the one thing that the Titans would not do, and this "end of days" is exactly that. Remember that Titan time-scale is much larger than Azeroth mortal. They planet hop loads and spend 'brief stints' on each planet, which to an Azeroth mortal are thousands of years. So whatever a Titan would consider a consequent-apocalypse could, from a mortals perspective, be years to come.

I think he's referring to algalon here when he says our "fate is sealed", he is likely aware of the failsafe function and has been working to trigger it the entire time ( causing the destruction of azeroth ).

Also I'm pretty sure Old Gods have some sort of manifestation of themselves ( their true self ) in a different dimension than our own. what we end up fighting are their avatars crossing into our dimension. That last part could be pulled out of my ass though--but this is how I understand it.

[Reevan]

I think it isn't really Yogg who you fought, it's just his mortal avatar which CAN die. The real old gods aren't physical beings but are immortal beings in other dimensions (Possibly the Twisting Nether?) which cannot be killed.

[Emiai]

Providing more evidence for the physical form idea, here we see about C'Thun - taken from http://www.wowwiki.com/C%27Thun.

'For thousands of years, the Qiraji worked tirelessly to resurrect C'Thun in its true physical form. '

Here we see that, we merely defeated a construct - built by Quiraji - that C'thun 'soul' or whatever, got 'into', he is still very much alive and waiting to be summoned back to physical form one day.

[TeXD]

I think him and C'thun are dead, the mortal races have evolved past the Curse of Flesh's weakness.

[Eversor]

I think him and C'thun are dead, the mortal races have evolved past the Curse of Flesh's weakness.

Curse of Flesh is mortality, vulnerability to diseases and bodily needs. Mortal races are made of flesh, thus cursed. Had they evolved past said weakness, we would be playing warforged right now.

Damn, now I want my chars to be warforged :<

[romek]

saw some info, maybe at wowwiki, maybe somewhere here, dont really remember, but, if you'd happen to remove that huge blade from that old god's corpse, it would be back to the living world once more. pretty hard to kill them and keep them dead for evah