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    is your rapture procing?

    well i think i ihave a dilema where i dont think my rapture is producing the increase in manna, rage, runic power, or energy when i shield somoe. i really only look when i shield the tank b4 a pull, but anyone have any ideas?

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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    Don't think so.
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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    That's not how it works. Rapture restores Mana/Energy/Rage/Runic Power to the shielded target when it is dispelled/destroyed. And then when that happens, they gain the boost, and then you gain 2% of your mana. If the shield is on you, you will gain 4.5% mana after the shield is dispelled/destroyed, in 2 increments, of 2.5% and 2%, simultaneously.

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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    Quote Originally Posted by fizikz
    I'm sure this has been covered before but last I checked (a while ago) there was a bit of a debate on it, which part of rapture has the cooldown? (you have to admit the wording sucks)

    the mana back does but there's a bug that allows you to gain multiple 2.5% back for multiple shields if they're all broken at once, right?(like by a single aoe, flame jets or w/e) then does the rage/rp/energy/mana gain have a CD?
    The effect can only happen every 12 seconds, on anyone. There was a point when simultaneous procs were happening but I'm not sure if that's been fixed or is intended (doubtful) but regardless there would be a 12sec CD between the simultaneous proc and the next, no different than a single proc.

    And yes, my Rapture is working. The little boost is actually pretty nice people (dps/tanks) tell me.

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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    Quote Originally Posted by G l o w y r m
    There was a point when simultaneous procs were happening but I'm not sure if that's been fixed or is intended
    If it was supposed to be fixed it is still not fixed. Freya example, couple of shields before ground and you got:
    [21:28:29.871] Ómc gains 628 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [21:28:29.871] Ómc gains 628 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [21:28:29.871] Ómc gains 628 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [21:28:29.871] Ómc gains 628 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [21:28:29.871] Ómc gains 628 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [21:28:29.871] Ómc gains 627 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [21:28:29.871] Ómc gains 628 mana from Ómc's Rapture

    I'm not sure about 12 sec cd between procs/simultaneus proc.
    While browsing combat logs I can't find it proccing more often than 12sec anyway.

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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    Quote Originally Posted by malkolm
    If it was supposed to be fixed it is still not fixed. Freya example, couple of shields before ground and you got:
    [21:28:29.871] Ómc gains 628 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [21:28:29.871] Ómc gains 628 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [21:28:29.871] Ómc gains 628 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [21:28:29.871] Ómc gains 628 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [21:28:29.871] Ómc gains 628 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [21:28:29.871] Ómc gains 627 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [21:28:29.871] Ómc gains 628 mana from Ómc's Rapture
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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    Quote Originally Posted by G l o w y r m
    The effect can only happen every 12 seconds, on anyone. There was a point when simultaneous procs were happening but I'm not sure if that's been fixed or is intended (doubtful) but regardless there would be a 12sec CD between the simultaneous proc and the next, no different than a single proc.

    And yes, my Rapture is working. The little boost is actually pretty nice people (dps/tanks) tell me.

    The effect? Rapture has two different effect, so are both on the 12s iCD(atleast should be) or not?

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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    When the shield is fully absorded or dispelled - The priest that casted it gains mana, if 3/3 rapture 2.5% of the priest total mana.

    When casting sheild it has a chance to energize it target. This has a 12 sec CD. The enregize part is either not working as intended or doesn't appear on combat log. one of the both. i myself don't play as discipline often.

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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    Quote Originally Posted by nikkita
    When the shield is fully absorded or dispelled - The priest that casted it gains mana, if 3/3 rapture 2.5% of the priest total mana.

    When casting sheild it has a chance to energize it target. This has a 12 sec CD. The enregize part is either not working as intended or doesn't appear on combat log. one of the both. i myself don't play as discipline often.
    It never says casting shield. It is a continuation of the first part.

    The extra bonus comes when the shield is dispelled/destroyed as well. IT IS NOT BUGGED. -.-; Wish people would pay attention.

    And to the people above: Silmultaneous destruction, to my knowledge, is not a bug that it multi procs. As they are destroyed at the same exact time, the game can't decide which to proc, so it procs all of them.

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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    Yes, when I spec Disc my Rapture is working . I'm not sure on the whole 12sec CD or anything, but I know that if two of your shields break at the same time, you gain 2 procs from Rapture. I had it saved somewhere as my guildies were talking about this as well but I lost them x.x.

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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    If i'am shilding 3 targets and after an AE effect all 3 shilds break, does i gain repture 3 times or is there also a CD?

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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Myzou
    It never says casting shield. It is a continuation of the first part.

    The extra bonus comes when the shield is dispelled/destroyed as well. IT IS NOT BUGGED. -.-; Wish people would pay attention.

    And to the people above: Silmultaneous destruction, to my knowledge, is not a bug that it multi procs. As they are destroyed at the same exact time, the game can't decide which to proc, so it procs all of them.
    I think someone has compreihention problems, today i talked to a GM about it and what i wrote was confirmed by him, in addition he mentioned logs are missing to investigate this bug, but it is a known bug.

    The bug is that the energize effect doesn't happen in the proc rate it should. As in the effect that has a 12 sec CD: that when you shield a target it grants the shielded target mana/rage/energy/runic power. This doesn't happen as often as intended.

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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    Can you not read the talent?

    The shield must be destroyed/dispelled for you or the target to receive anything.

    It is not bugged, it is proccing exactly as it is described.

    GMs are not game specialists.

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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blutelf
    Can you not read the talent?

    The shield must be destroyed/dispelled for you or the target to receive anything.

    It is not bugged, it is proccing exactly as it is described.

    GMs are not game specialists.
    i will quote for you: Rapture:
    When your Power Word: Shield is completely absorbed or dispelled you are instantly energized with 2.5% of your total mana,
    and you have a 100% chance to energize your shielded target with 2% total mana, 8 rage, 16 energy or 32 runic power. This effect can only occur once every 12 sec.

    Atm acroding to logs, the part i colored red is not working as intended. i hope this makes it easier to understand. Rapture has 2 effects, the first effect is working as intended, when your sheild is fully absorded or dispelled - you will get mana back (blue). Yet the second effect (red) is not working as intended and isn't resorting mana/energy/rage and runic power As intended on the shielded target like it should.

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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    Quote Originally Posted by nikkita
    i will quote for you: Rapture:
    When your Power Word: Shield is completely absorbed or dispelled you are instantly energized with 2.5% of your total mana,
    and you have a 100% chance to energize your shielded target with 2% total mana, 8 rage, 16 energy or 32 runic power. This effect can only occur once every 12 sec.

    Atm acroding to logs, the part i colored red is not working as intended. i hope this makes it easier to understand. Rapture has 2 effects, the first effect is working as intended, when your sheild is fully absorded or dispelled - you will get mana back (blue). Yet the second effect (red) is not working as intended and isn't resorting mana/energy/rage and runic power As intended on the shielded target like it should.
    Actually, to me it meant like this:

    When your Power Word: Shield is completely absorbed or dispelled you are instantly energized with 2.5% of your total mana,
    and you have a 100% chance to energize your shielded target with 2% total mana, 8 rage, 16 energy or 32 runic power.


    This effect can only occur once every 12 sec.


    In other words, with "and" in tooltip it meant your target get "energized" and you get your mana return when the shield on your target is completely absorbed or dispelled. Both share a 12s cd. And it have been working exactly like that =) (you can test it easily by shielding and dueling another player. Shield him, destroy his shield then see his mana/energy/rage/runic power go up together with your mana)

    And from my experience, in-game GM can't be taken seriously when they said they already acknowledged a bug... more likely they are trying to sound like they knew about it (not always, but happens quite often)

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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    Quote Originally Posted by nikkita
    i will quote for you: Rapture:
    When your Power Word: Shield is completely absorbed or dispelled you are instantly energized with 2.5% of your total mana,
    and you have a 100% chance to energize your shielded target with 2% total mana, 8 rage, 16 energy or 32 runic power. This effect can only occur once every 12 sec.

    Atm acroding to logs, the part i colored red is not working as intended. i hope this makes it easier to understand. Rapture has 2 effects, the first effect is working as intended, when your sheild is fully absorded or dispelled - you will get mana back (blue). Yet the second effect (red) is not working as intended and isn't resorting mana/energy/rage and runic power As intended on the shielded target like it should.
    Take a look at another query from logs.

    Code:
    [22:24:04.147] Oll gains 8 rage from Oll's Rapture
    [22:24:04.546] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:24:29.477] Atonement gains 412 mana from Atonement's Rapture
    [22:24:29.850] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:24:49.112] Theordius gains 449 mana from Theordius's Rapture
    [22:24:49.504] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:25:10.364] Mosep gains 8 rage from Mosep's Rapture
    [22:25:10.768] Ómc gains 657 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:25:34.096] Mosep gains 8 rage from Mosep's Rapture
    [22:25:34.497] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:25:53.788] Oll gains 8 rage from Oll's Rapture
    [22:25:54.204] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:26:13.878] Mosep gains 8 rage from Mosep's Rapture
    [22:26:14.305] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:26:58.085] Mierzei gains 151 mana from Mierzei's Rapture
    [22:26:58.477] Ómc gains 657 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:27:11.274] Xlaska gains 511 mana from Xlaska's Rapture
    [22:27:11.737] Ómc gains 657 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:27:36.680] Mosep gains 8 rage from Mosep's Rapture
    [22:27:37.055] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:27:49.907] Drevazan gains 16 energy from Drevazan's Rapture
    [22:27:50.288] Ómc gains 657 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:28:09.970] Kamol gains 157 mana from Kamol's Rapture
    [22:28:10.411] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:28:31.307] Indis gains 424 mana from Indis's Rapture
    [22:28:31.678] Ómc gains 657 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:28:44.925] Indis gains 424 mana from Indis's Rapture
    [22:28:45.332] Ómc gains 657 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:29:18.705] Oll gains 8 rage from Oll's Rapture
    [22:29:19.105] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:29:36.816] Oll gains 8 rage from Oll's Rapture
    [22:29:37.171] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:29:50.848] Gryzio gains 292 mana from Gryzio's Rapture
    [22:29:51.211] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    The second part (red) is working too. You can see there is always at least 12 seconds gap between procs.

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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    Quote Originally Posted by malkolm
    Take a look at another query from logs.

    Code:
    [22:24:04.147] Oll gains 8 rage from Oll's Rapture
    [22:24:04.546] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:24:29.477] Atonement gains 412 mana from Atonement's Rapture
    [22:24:29.850] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:24:49.112] Theordius gains 449 mana from Theordius's Rapture
    [22:24:49.504] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:25:10.364] Mosep gains 8 rage from Mosep's Rapture
    [22:25:10.768] Ómc gains 657 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:25:34.096] Mosep gains 8 rage from Mosep's Rapture
    [22:25:34.497] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:25:53.788] Oll gains 8 rage from Oll's Rapture
    [22:25:54.204] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:26:13.878] Mosep gains 8 rage from Mosep's Rapture
    [22:26:14.305] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:26:58.085] Mierzei gains 151 mana from Mierzei's Rapture
    [22:26:58.477] Ómc gains 657 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:27:11.274] Xlaska gains 511 mana from Xlaska's Rapture
    [22:27:11.737] Ómc gains 657 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:27:36.680] Mosep gains 8 rage from Mosep's Rapture
    [22:27:37.055] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:27:49.907] Drevazan gains 16 energy from Drevazan's Rapture
    [22:27:50.288] Ómc gains 657 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:28:09.970] Kamol gains 157 mana from Kamol's Rapture
    [22:28:10.411] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:28:31.307] Indis gains 424 mana from Indis's Rapture
    [22:28:31.678] Ómc gains 657 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:28:44.925] Indis gains 424 mana from Indis's Rapture
    [22:28:45.332] Ómc gains 657 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:29:18.705] Oll gains 8 rage from Oll's Rapture
    [22:29:19.105] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:29:36.816] Oll gains 8 rage from Oll's Rapture
    [22:29:37.171] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    [22:29:50.848] Gryzio gains 292 mana from Gryzio's Rapture
    [22:29:51.211] Ómc gains 656 mana from Ómc's Rapture
    The second part (red) is working too. You can see there is always at least 12 seconds gap between procs.
    I have veiw a full log from my guild's last week and this week freya + 3 kill (the only encounter we use a discipline priest atm), and acording to the log, the energize effect isn't procing every 12 sec's.

    I ticketed a GM to have him answer "this bug is under investigation and we recently have been notified about it" i also gave him the 2 log's i had, and he confirmed and said that idd this effect isn't happening as often as it should happen.

    On a time frame of 560 sec's this effect happened 27 times. (if you do the calculation if is abit more then half the times it should proc, considering the amount of sheild casted). The main thing i noticed: the energize effect didn't proc once on the discipline priest when the sheild was casted on himself (i think thats the problem). 27 proc times with a 12 sec CD should happen in a timeframe of 324 sec.
    This refering to the Red part (and not the blue, the blue part is procing as it should).

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    Re: is your rapture procing?

    Quote Originally Posted by nikkita
    I have veiw a full log from my guild's last week and this week freya + 3 kill (the only encounter we use a discipline priest atm), and acording to the log, the energize effect isn't procing every 12 sec's.

    I ticketed a GM to have him answer "this bug is under investigation and we recently have been notified about it" i also gave him the 2 log's i had, and he confirmed and said that idd this effect isn't happening as often as it should happen.

    On a time frame of 560 sec's this effect happened 27 times. (if you do the calculation if is abit more then half the times it should proc, considering the amount of sheild casted). The main thing i noticed: the energize effect didn't proc once on the discipline priest when the sheild was casted on himself (i think thats the problem). 27 proc times with a 12 sec CD should happen in a timeframe of 324 sec.
    This refering to the Red part (and not the blue, the blue part is procing as it should).
    I'm not experiencing this bug, only you are, why? Because it isn't a bug.

    You are reading the tooltip WAY wrong. Period.

  19. #19

    Re: is your rapture procing?

    no facepalm macro from the GM side?

  20. #20

    Re: is your rapture procing?

    It's working just fine, I have no idea what you're talking about nikkita. Maybe the shields aren't being fully used up exactly every 12 seconds on the dot, some could just be timing out.

    No bug here.

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