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  1. #21

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Rilgon
    Oh look, I can make a rabbit... that just sits there! I can... oh wait that's the only remotely "fun" schematic in Wrath.
    You can use http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=54736 click effect to blow the rabbit up if you're in range. Just thought I'd toss that out there.

  2. #22

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by AetherMcLoud
    Yeah I know. That was the point.
    Oh, haha, my bad :P

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnConner
    with all that being said makes u sound like your sad cuz u don't have a hog. i have one made it from scratch, got the non craftables from uld bosses maybe you don't play enough?
    Grats on being stupidly lucky?
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  3. #23

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnConner
    with all that being said makes u sound like your sad cuz u don't have a hog. i have one made it from scratch, got the non craftables from uld bosses maybe you don't play enough?
    I have the total kills (10 and 25 man):
    FL: 6 + 9 = 15
    XT: 6 + 7 = 13
    Mimi: 3 + 1 = 4
    15 + 13 + 4 = 32

    (yeah not really high totals).

    I have gotten 3 goblin machine pistons. GRATS ON RNG

  4. #24

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    So, where are these "real" numbers we were promised by the OP?

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  5. #25

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by bbr
    So, where are these "real" numbers we were promised by the OP?
    They are the real numbers from the PTR. Or do you mean DPS contribution numbers? Because I can get those too.
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  6. #26

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Rilgon
    They are the real numbers from the PTR. Or do you mean DPS contribution numbers? Because I can get those too.
    Yep, or more accurately the stat value compared to hard enchants.
    You can enchant your gloves with AP, or with the engineering enchant. But if the difference isn't 40 or more. There's no point.

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  7. #27

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    Well, the stat value is too ambiguous. Haste is terrible for a lot of people and supposedly very good for a select few (just Rogues, AFAIK?).

    If you want to get real technical, the glove enchant is 46 IP over Crusher, but it's 46 points of a wasted, B-tier stat for most classes, so it comes out horrible (for me, 7 DPS better than Crusher, compared to 45.15 DPS for LW/Ench/Alch/Insc).

    The rockets are about 42-45 DPS, roughly, but then you lose the 20 DPS or so from Crusher, which means, yet again, it comes in about 20-25 DPS short.

    If they'd move the rockets to the belt or another non-enchanted slot...
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  8. #28

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers


    Quote Originally Posted by Rilgon
    Oh, haha, my bad :P
    Grats on being stupidly lucky?
    Gratz at not playing the game
    If Blizzard continues this s*** you will be able to get t9 / Furious in fishing dailies

  9. #29

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnConner
    Gratz at not playing the game
    No, you really are stupidly lucky. I'm the only one in my guild (out of 2 engineers, no less!) who actually bother to mine those sodding bosses after they die.

    Not. One. Single. Piece.

    But I make good gold from selling useless Volatile Blasting Triggers, which I get in absolute droves.

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    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnConner
    Gratz at not playing the game
    I decontructed the mechanical bosses every week for ~2 month. Not a single hog part. Gratz on being lucky.
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  11. #31

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    Dam must be luck
    If Blizzard continues this s*** you will be able to get t9 / Furious in fishing dailies

  12. #32

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    grats on being UNlucky.

  13. #33

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    care about stats we get AH in dalaran and portable bank. pure win imho
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  14. #34

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by bbr
    +2 sockets = +2x20 = 40 stats.
    So, all other professions will be changed to give +40 stats as well.

    Except engineering, as usual...
    Uhm hyperspeed accelerators got buffed to 12 seconds instead of 10 seconds.

    The 340 haste now has a 20% uptime. Meaning it has the same effect as a 68 passive haste bonus.

    For most DPS casters (and some others) this is a vast improvement over the 28 spellpower or similar for gloves. Basicly +40. Not to mention 28 spellpower on cloak is much better than 23 haste.

    Since cloak enchant = glove enchant in spellpower, the net increase is 68 haste -23 haste = 45 haste.

    Engineering is now on par with other professions (if you can use haste well)

    Not to mention speed boosts, slow fall and other very cool gadgets.

  15. #35

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    1)twinks love engineering and vise versa...
    2)grand master engineering at 60(2x http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41121 is 12% crit)
    3)gnomes getting 2x http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40767 or 2x http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40865 at 50,rest at 60!
    2)OP damage from bombs!
    3)uber and cheap enchants!
    4)faster and funnier lvling!
    5)teleports!
    6)chance to ress dead ppl!
    7)vendors/repairs when needed!
    8)mail everywhere every 4 hrs!
    9) http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23821
    10) http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40895
    11)auction house in dalaran?
    12)with the new mounts changes http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34060 at 60 too!
    13)you reached 80 and you need a profession that boosts your dps/healing/tanking/gold making?deal with what engineering offers you or simply just drop it!
    ...too big,too small,size does matter after all
    ...too short,too tall,doesn't matter when size fits all...!

  16. #36

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    Blizzard also posted that the siege damage from bombs would be increased. Does anyone have numbers on that from the PTR?

  17. #37

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Swindley
    Engineering is now on par with other professions (if you can use haste well)
    And if Haste is the worst stat your class can gear for apart from Spi/Str?
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  18. #38

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Rilgon
    And if Haste is the worst stat your class can gear for apart from Spi/Str?
    Reroll to another profession.
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  19. #39

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Kysimir
    Reroll to another profession.
    Typical MMO-C troll logic, why am I not surprised?
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  20. #40

    Re: Engineering: Real 3.2 Numbers

    Tell me this, Rilgon.

    Is there any rule, anywhere in the game, that says Engineering has to provide similar bonuses to what most other professions have? Is there some contract I haven't seen that requires Blizzard to keep it even with all of the others?

    What is so criminal about having 1 profession in the game that's designed around fun little gadgets and explosives instead of providing another <# of your preferred stat> that you could get from another profession anyway?

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