3 months ? For what, a recycled boss and a 10 ft big instance ?

[Janosaudron]

It's crossed my mind a couple of times.
The designers have all the time in the world to 'design' the content that's gonna come out, yet this 3.2 patch, seems kinda...

Rushed.

I mean, took 'em 3 months to make the Colosseum only ?
Don't misunderstand me, I'm very excited about it, but doesn't it seem fairly TOO SMALL for 3 months work ?

Could it be possible that IC (or, well, some other raid) is already in progress, and this is just a placeholder for a few months, but just is being done 'under the table' without any announces ?

[Bainz]

Well, if your theory is right...

Icecrown better be pretty fucking amazing.

[Pheonixis]

Don't like it, then leave it.

[Tigercat]

I think it will be. Naxx 1.0 was fucking amazing, Sunwell was pretty fucking amazing, and I feel rather comfortable being optimistic that wotlk's final raid will fit the same mold.

[Herecius]

I'd say the amount of work they've put into the gear of this patch MORE than makes up for it. Blizz said that Ulduar was its biggest patch ever in the number of items - and we've barely dented the PTR and already appear to be set to pass that number, with like, 840 items already discovered.

They've said that the new design philosophy encourages incorporating some shorter raids, but in all honesty, it does have 6 bosses, so that's not exactly lacking in the fight-quantity. Tempest Keep only had, what, 5?

[Deleted]

I'd say the amount of work they've put into the gear of this patch MORE than makes up for it. Blizz said that Ulduar was its biggest patch ever in the number of items - and we've barely dented the PTR and already appear to be set to pass that number, with like, 840 items already discovered.

They've said that the new design philosophy encourages incorporating some shorter raids, but in all honesty, it does have 6 bosses, so that's not exactly lacking in the fight-quantity. Tempest Keep only had, what, 5?

Well 3 really. Alar, Astormancer Solarian and Kaelthas. Lootreavers didn't really count as a boss =P

[tehealadin]

Well mate, I mean none of us have any real clue what IC will be like, but I think despite of this we have enough to make pretty definitive conclusions about it. The idea that they wouldn't announce their work before work begins is insane, I mean who does that? If it hasn't been announced, they aren't working on it. I feel that I can say this with authority.

Anyway, the new patch is more than 1 instance, a quick glance of the patch notes would have illuminated this for you. And why is 3 months too short? Would 7 months make you feel safe and secure? Why?

[Tigercat]

I'd say the amount of work they've put into the gear of this patch MORE than makes up for it. Blizz said that Ulduar was its biggest patch ever in the number of items - and we've barely dented the PTR and already appear to be set to pass that number, with like, 840 items already discovered.

They've said that the new design philosophy encourages incorporating some shorter raids, but in all honesty, it does have 6 bosses, so that's not exactly lacking in the fight-quantity. Tempest Keep only had, what, 5?

It had 4, but you have to remember it was basically paired with SSC, which had another 6.

[Herecius]

Well mate, I mean none of us have any real clue what IC will be like, but I think despite of this we have enough to make pretty definitive conclusions about it. The idea that they wouldn't announce their work before work begins is insane, I mean who does that? If it hasn't been announced, they aren't working on it. I feel that I can say this with authority.

Anyway, the new patch is more than 1 instance, a quick glance of the patch notes would have illuminated this for you. And why is 3 months too short? Would 7 months make you feel safe and secure? Why?

I'm not sure I follow your logic - Blizzard is almost certainly already working on (if not amusingly close to completing) the next EXPANSION PACK. They've said they work almost a year ahead of themselves, when it comes to designing. I have no doubt that Blizzard is very deep into the development of the Icecrown raid, otherwise they'd have to do an absolutely obscene amount of work in only 3 months. When was the last time the development of anything in any MMO only took 3 months from concept to completion?
WoW itself was like.. 4 years in the making, at least.

[thilicen]

OP seems to believe that 3.2 only brings the colloseum, that there is no new quest hub, new BG, class changes or anything of the sort. Just the plain "tiny" colloseum with 6 playable modes.

[Taurentony]

I think it will be. Naxx 1.0 was fucking amazing, Sunwell was pretty fucking amazing, and I feel rather comfortable being optimistic that wotlk's final raid will fit the same mold.

Nope, those raids were not casual friendly so no such thing ever gonna happen again.

[Janosaudron]

They've said that the new design philosophy encourages incorporating some shorter raids, but in all honesty, it does have 6 bosses, so that's not exactly lacking in the fight-quantity. Tempest Keep only had, what, 5?

Yes, but. You had T4 split in 3 raids, T5 content was consisted of 2 separate raids which were : longer, more 'hardcore' than what we see in wotlk, and more fun if you ask me, T6 of 2 different again.

I'm not against a 'short-raid' system, but if Colosseum is gonna be held for another 6 months with the 'don't wipe a single time system', makes it rather, non-satisfying for guilds that've cleared Ulduar already (not to speak of horrors if they nerf the proto drakes from Ulduar immediately, making guilds who are in the progress of clearing hard modes even less interested in doing it.)

About the itemization in Ulduar, it's less likely that players will 'go' for Uld loot, even hard modes loot, as T9 stats are kinda better, and easier to obtain. (Unless we are speaking of necklaces, rings, or some other small BS that would make you go down a h-mode).

So basically we'll have 6 bosses, with each one of them dropping a tier token, farmed for months.. Mhm, right.

Oh yea, one more thing, for the love of god, if the next instance is IC, and we get to fight Arthass (meaning it's the endgame raid), it's nothing more but, majorly disappointing.

[Disconnecktie]

OP seems to believe that 3.2 only brings the colloseum, that there is no new quest hub, new BG, class changes or anything of the sort. Just the plain "tiny" colloseum with 6 playable modes.

Not every class/spec is getting a lot of changes and not everyone cares about the new dailys/Argent Tournament shit. So they have the new raid and possibly BG to look forward to. If the raid doesn't deliver I can see how people could be disappointed over this patch.

[Gron]

Yep, it seems we get the stick for getting less raids. I don't think "Bizzard is working on the next expansion already" is the right answer, if history is anything to go by, every expansion takes 2 years, unless you want to see even less raids.

I think the larger the size of the game in GB on your HD the harder it is to build everything so it falls less and less apart.

I also don't think we have to whine about recycled content - look at the bossess, at least one has a new texture on it, and at least one will be scaled really huge!!!

I also think 3.2 will come out in August, or 1st week of September - usually there is a lot of tuning to do, and I think they will first focus to iron out the new PVP area aspect.

I think the size of the dev. team on WOW stayed approximately the same, however there is more work for them since BC (every content patch focuses on class balance, pvp, raids, new items, lore, new mounts, pets, achievements, gems, professions, enchants, etc).

[iglocska]

You act like copy and pasting content is hard. Anyone could take blizzards files and copy and paste an instance in a day, which would probably be better. And gear? Copy and pasting gear models, and putting stats that aren't very different due to item levels isn't very time consuming either.

Like the poster above me said, some people don't care about new dailies, or the argent tournament, since we blizzard has dumbed down this content to the point that you can farm their poor excuse of a raid instance and make profit.

And they obviously are very good at balancing classes right? So, what takes 3 months to make? Vanilla wow and tbc were great, this expansion has been terrible since day 1.

@the other poster above me. It doesn't take 2 years to add the same models to an engine that hasn't changed. You're just used to blizzard (who doesn't really care anymore), and not other game companies who are actually trying to get customers.

And before you say "Go play another game", I would but the majority of WoW players destroy any chance of another successful mmo.

I am literally pissed with this patch entirely. Thanks for the shaman buffs 8 months late, and thanks for making me wait 3 months for an instance with even less trash than ulduar.

I hope you'll become a developer and save gaming single handedly!!!

[Herecius]

I hope you'll become a developer and save gaming single handedly!!!

^^
/agree.

Our gaming messiah has arrived, may he deliver us from the awful tyranny and terribad games of the worst developer on the planet, Blizzard Entertainment!

[izayoi80]

People like you two are the reason Blizzard can get away with this shit...

[tehealadin]

You act like copy and pasting content is hard. Anyone could take blizzards files and copy and paste an instance in a day, which would probably be better. And gear? Copy and pasting gear models, and putting stats that aren't very different due to item levels isn't very time consuming either.

Like the poster above me said, some people don't care about new dailies, or the argent tournament, since we blizzard has dumbed down this content to the point that you can farm their poor excuse of a raid instance and make profit.

And they obviously are very good at balancing classes right? So, what takes 3 months to make? Vanilla wow and tbc were great, this expansion has been terrible since day 1.

@the other poster above me. It doesn't take 2 years to add the same models to an engine that hasn't changed. You're just used to blizzard (who doesn't really care anymore), and not other game companies who are actually trying to get customers.

And before you say "Go play another game", I would but the majority of WoW players destroy any chance of another successful mmo.

I am literally pissed with this patch entirely. Thanks for the shaman buffs 8 months late, and thanks for making me wait 3 months for an instance with even less trash than ulduar.

Change your avatar, I hate to see the Saltire spoiled by posts like this.

I love the whole "I can do it better" speech which hints at potential ignorance over the subject. IMA TAEK U SRSLY BRO.


Herecius, I was being sarcastic on the first paragraph btw ;P

[Kazie]

dry your tears kid..

Colesseum, isle of conquest, T9.. remake of raid of how raid difficulties work new battelground, new druid bear forms, remake of battlegrounds, etc. etc. .. seriously.. stop beeing such a retard and be greatful that they give you another content patch already 3 months after Ulduar..

A content patch is not designed to fit you alone.. get over yourself and be a little happy they release new content at all..

ppl like you should just not be allowed to play..

Go play with legos or something and make your own shit kid!

[Janosaudron]

dry your tears kid..

Colesseum, isle of conquest, T9.. remake of raid of how raid difficulties work new battelground, new druid bear forms, remake of battlegrounds, etc. etc. .. seriously.. stop beeing such a retard and be greatful that they give you another content patch already 3 months after Ulduar..

A content patch is not designed to fit you alone.. get over yourself and be a little happy they release new content at all..

ppl like you should just not be allowed to play..

Go play with legos or something and make your own shit kid!

I'm glad to see there are some people who are excited about how their bearform will look (only took 'em 4 years to do it, YAY!) , well, you'r gonna take a looooong nice look at it, I suggest parking it in the middle of Dalaran for some show-off.

New BG, sure, it's exciting, and a nice add.

But for 'SOME' of us who actually play this game for it's PvE content (a concept you obviously don't understand yet), this patch is a load of bullshit if it's here to stay for a ridiculous amount of time.

And oh, about Ulduar, 3 months is a huge GAP between serious players and casuals. I'm not happy that this patch is out so soon, hard modes take a long effin tame to clear and farm fully, while on the other hand casual players will be happy for the new content so soon. But yea, Blizz said they'r focusing on casuals more, bring up a FACEBOOK interface addon too!