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  1. #21

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    justicebringer looks so damn ugly. the other axe looks better. trinkets look fine. 2xx stam on 1 trinket. hallelujah

  2. #22

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    Fervor of the Frostborn
    Binds when picked up
    Unique
    Trinket
    Requires Level 80
    Item Level 232
    Equip: Increases your dodge rating by 114.
    Use: Each time you are struck by an attack, you gain 1265 armor. Stacks up to 5 times. Entire effect lasts 20 sec. (Cooldown unknown)

    By my calculation, assuming a boss with a 3.0 attack speed, that works out to ~ 3479 armour over the 20 sec duration. (5376 if the boss had a 1.0 attack speed). Granted, my math is not particularly stellar, but my numbers won't be wildly off. Lets compare to:

    Furnace Stone
    Binds when picked up
    Unique
    Trinket
    Requires Level 80
    Equip: Increases your dodge rating by 105 (2.67% @ L80).
    Use: Increases armor by 5152 for 20 sec. (2 Min Cooldown)

    I'm not sold...

    Edit: to the poster below me... if you're gunna look at hard mode gear, compare it with other hard mode gear. Uld25 hard mode 2hs deal 244 dps, compared to 281. Uld25 easy mode 2hs deal 232 dps, compared to 255.

  3. #23

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    Jesus, I wonder if the DPS on those 2h melee weapons are wrong but thats quite an enormous dps jump from ulduar weapons.

    Naxx KT weapon was 222

    Ulduar Hard mode weapon 232?

    Tournament raid 280

    wowsers

  4. #24

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    Quote Originally Posted by gonterf
    Fervor of the Frostborn
    Binds when picked up
    Unique
    Miscellaneous
    Trinket
    Requires Level 80
    Item Level 232
    Equip: Increases your dodge rating by 114.
    Use: Each time you are struck by an attack, you gain 1265 armor. Stacks up to 5 times. Entire effect lasts 20 sec.

    By my calculation, assuming a boss with a 3.0 attack speed, that works out to ~ 3479 armour over the 20 sec duration. (5376 if the boss had a 1.0 attack speed). Granted, my math is not particularly stellar, but my numbers won't be wildly off.

    Lets compare to:
    Furnace Stone
    Binds when picked up
    Unique
    Trinket
    Requires Level 80
    Equip: Increases your dodge rating by 105 (2.67% @ L80).
    Use: Increases armor by 5152 for 20 sec. (2 Min Cooldown)

    I'm not sold...
    I might be wrong here, but isn't the duration refreshed every time you are hit in those 20 seconds? So it should last for 38-40 seconds, and you most likely have 6125 extra armor in the last 20 seconds.

  5. #25

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    I'd say the skinns are way better then i thought, jet..
    "Two things are infinte: the universe and human stupidity; and im not sure about the universe"

  6. #26

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    Quote Originally Posted by Arisen
    Jesus, I wonder if the DPS on those 2h melee weapons are wrong but thats quite an enormous dps jump from ulduar weapons.

    Naxx KT weapon was 222

    Ulduar Hard mode weapon 232?

    Tournament raid 280

    wowsers
    http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40384 - ilvl226
    222 DPS

    http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45516 - ilvl239
    244 DPS

    (13 ilvls, +22 DPS)

    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47069 - ilvl245
    255 DPS

    http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/47078 - ilvl258
    281 DPS

    (13 ilvls, +26 DPS)

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    Not really that different.
    Originally Posted by Ghostcrawler (Blue Tracker)
    We don't think burst is a problem in PvP right now.

  7. #27

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    So now there is going to be different "Quality" levels for epics i see... Same items, different names/models, same stats, but different amounts depending on their item level.

    Juggernaut's Vitality ===> Satrina's Impeding Scarab
    Fetish of Volatile Power ===> Talisman of Volatile Power

    You can do that with like 10 other items.

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    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    Quote Originally Posted by Furthur
    just means you can re-itemize gems. not a bad trade off imo
    And when you play a retpal ?

    Do not want arp !!!
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  9. #29

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    Could those horde plate pieces be a sneak peak at what the sets are gonna look like (or the shoulders, at least)?

    EDIT: I just looked in another thread, and the shoulders do match.
    M'Hael

  10. #30

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    Some nice loot around here. And Many ArP It seems.
    Why Not ^^

  11. #31

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    So they have an offensive caster DPS trinket, a healer trinket, a tank trinket... and a melee DPS trinket.

    ...fucking Blizzard. >_<
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  12. #32

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    Quote Originally Posted by Rilgon
    So they have an offensive caster DPS trinket, a healer trinket, a tank trinket... and a melee DPS trinket.

    ...fucking Blizzard. >_<
    Cause this is obviously the WHOLE Loot list of that instance *cough*not*cough*
    Why Not ^^

  13. #33

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    fuck yea! more 2h's with armor pen! JUST WHAT I WANTED! :

  14. #34

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    Quote Originally Posted by Rilgon
    So they have an offensive caster DPS trinket, a healer trinket, a tank trinket... and a melee DPS trinket.

    ...fucking Blizzard. >_<
    Vengeance of the Forsaken/Victor's Call
    Show me on these pages where the bad Blizzard said "melee strikes only, sucks to be you, huntard"
    But your duty to Azeroth is not yet complete. More is demanded of you... a price the living cannot pay.

  15. #35

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    Quote Originally Posted by Nulgar
    Vengeance of the Forsaken/Victor's Call
    Show me on these pages where the bad Blizzard said "melee strikes only, sucks to be you, huntard"
    How about the expertise on the trinket

    Show me how huntards benefit from expertise

  16. #36
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    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    Quote Originally Posted by DizRupT
    How about the expertise on the trinket

    Show me how huntards benefit from expertise
    Secretly Hidden in patch: "NPCs have been training in the ancient Zen Artz and will now be able to dodge and parry Arrows and Bullets."

  17. #37
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    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    WTF IS WRONG???

    70 ap per strike, stacks 5 times?!?! 5x70 = 350 yes?

    Hm just a question, why does a blue ilvl200 trinket from HC NEXUS give more ap on pop than a ilvl232 epic ?
    Those 350 ap arent even instant.

    Oh im sry, forgot to mention about that crap expertise, wtf? Expertise is a joke to get capped, and besides, which of these 4 adorable trinkets r the hunters gonna get? (not that i care about hunters though, lawl /phail byebye reroll titheads ;D)

  18. #38

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinna
    Secretly Hidden in patch: "NPCs have been training in the ancient Zen Artz and will now be able to dodge and parry Arrows and Bullets."
    They learned it from Will Scarlet O'Hara
    But your duty to Azeroth is not yet complete. More is demanded of you... a price the living cannot pay.

  19. #39

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    ArP fecking everywhere, nice to be Unholy DK or ret pallly etc.

  20. #40

    Re: New Items Discovered on PTRs - 25-Man Hard Mode Included

    Quote Originally Posted by schleimhaut
    WTF IS WRONG???

    70 ap per strike, stacks 5 times?!?! 5x70 = 350 yes?

    Hm just a question, why does a blue ilvl200 trinket from HC NEXUS give more ap on pop than a ilvl232 epic ?
    Those 350 ap arent even instant.
    Keep in mind that once it is capped it will continualy refresh up to its 350 ap for the rest of the fight as long as a hit is landed on target, whereas the Nexus trinket only happens for 20 secs every 2 mins. Now which one is better?

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