So with the nerfs to ret being so bad to inspire so much butthurt

[Zerojoe]

What's everyone re-rolling?
Personally, I might try to level my paladin now.

[Handsylton]

FotM will re-roll. The paladins who actually care about their class are going to stay.

If Blizz pays attention to movement/switch fights, they'll notice that our DPS is dismal and HOPEFULLY, MAYBE, I'M PRAYING will do something about it. Otherwise... LOLRET.

[Rhonen]

You should go play Runescape. Sounds like the perfect game for you.

[Zerojoe]

You should go play Runescape. Sounds like the perfect game for you.

Don't be butthurt.
Try and read through the tears.

[Rumplewinds]

Lol there were much fewer paladins before they got so OP. My guess is all the FotM crybabies will roll another class when they realize they are no longer facerolling people.

And all will be good in the 'hood.

TO THA GROUND.

[Zerojoe]

I Summon thou, oh thee Dreadful Iktanknet!
Heed my call!
Unleash your righteous might upon that misbegotten fool!
Purify him with your Holy Word!
Let your Blessed BanHammer crush the ribs of the unpure one, for the sake of him!

I'm just asking what others are re-rolling.
No need to misspell all over the place.

[shrappnel]

You should go play Runescape. Sounds like the perfect game for you.

Don't waste your time starting drama. (dipshit)
As for me, I'm probably going to run each raid (Naxx, EoE, OS, Uld) then see where my dps stands.
I know w/ the ramp-up burst is down the drain, but after 12 seconds I should start seeing results.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...&n=Ultim%C3%A4

But on burn fights (XT heart phase, Yogg brain phase), I'm going to be almost completely useless unless they fix this.

[Tigercat]

Don't waste your time starting drama. (dipshit)
As for me, I'm probably going to run each raid (Naxx, EoE, OS, Uld) then see where my dps stands.
I know w/ the ramp-up burst is down the drain, but after 12 seconds I should start seeing results.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...&n=Ultim%C3%A4

But on burn fights (XT heart phase, Yogg brain phase), I'm going to be almost completely useless unless they fix this.

So dps classes that have to ramp up their dps over the course of a few seconds suck? Yea man, lemme tell ya rogues fucking suck at XT's heart and Yogg's brain, what with having to wait for combo points and needing to spend them on silly things like SnD or Rupture before their dps at its max, they're just terrible for things like that.

Oh, shit, wait a second.....

[Handsylton]

So dps classes that have to ramp up their dps over the course of a few seconds suck? Yea man, lemme tell ya rogues fucking suck at XT's heart and Yogg's brain, what with having to wait for combo points and needing to spend them on silly things like SnD or Rupture before their dps at its max, they're just terrible for things like that.

Oh, shit, wait a second.....

Few seconds =/= 12-15 seconds.

Few = 4-6 seconds.

[Zerojoe]

Few seconds =/= 12-15 seconds.

Few = 4-6 seconds.

They couldn't just buff bosses HP up to make fights longer?
Like pre-wrath?

[starwarriors]

Don't waste your time starting drama. (dipshit)
As for me, I'm probably going to run each raid (Naxx, EoE, OS, Uld) then see where my dps stands.
I know w/ the ramp-up burst is down the drain, but after 12 seconds I should start seeing results.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...&n=Ultim%C3%A4

But on burn fights (XT heart phase, Yogg brain phase), I'm going to be almost completely useless unless they fix this.

Yea idd... i dont want to say it but ... screw pvp lol... just delete it damnit! im paying for a pve game and im playing on a pve realm and i dont give a damn about the pvp... why should i be nerfed if some paladins are facerolling? just make all the spells do 2 things... 1 for pvp and second for pve ;x

Edit: i guess they care just for the pvp people and totaly ignore the pve playing dudes ;/

[Callsign Grunge]

Don't be butthurt.
Try and read through the tears.

[Zerojoe]

How will these changes effect leveling?

[Handsylton]

How will these changes effect leveling?

SoC.. SoV is now useless for leveling, just like it's useless for anything but Patchwerk type fights.

[Enders]

Once you've played a DPS warrior who is in charge of stacking sunders, then and only then can you whine about switch fights.

[Handsylton]

Once you've played a DPS warrior who is in charge of stacking sunders, then and only then can you whine about switch fights.

There's a big difference between stacking sunders so the whole raid benefits compared to stacking your own DoTs on a target so you can do max damage. Once you've played a DPS warrior that can only do their maximum damage 15 seconds after they start attacking something, then you can whi.... OH WAIT.

[Darrkh]

How will these changes effect leveling?

It wont, because you level as prot, which is faster and more interesting anyway ;D

Once you've played a DPS warrior who is in charge of stacking sunders, then and only then can you whine about switch fights.

Because 5 seconds is a HUGE amount of time!

[omegatrigun]

So dps classes that have to ramp up their dps over the course of a few seconds suck? Yea man, lemme tell ya rogues fucking suck at XT's heart and Yogg's brain, what with having to wait for combo points and needing to spend them on silly things like SnD or Rupture before their dps at its max, they're just terrible for things like that.

Oh, shit, wait a second.....

Ret ramp up time=5 auto attacks= ~15 sec
DK ramp up time=diseases up= 2 global cds= 3 sec
rogue ramp up time=getting SnD and rupt up= 4 global cds= 6 sec
warr ram up time= getting rend up= 1gcd= 1.5 sec

So ret's ramp up is about 3x-5x longer than other melee. Yep that's logical.

[Enders]

Because 5 seconds is a HUGE amount of time!

Someone failed math class.

[omegatrigun]

Someone failed math class.

You're mad because you have to wast 5 globals, which is 7.5 sec.
Ret has to wait for auto attacks, making the time they waste about 15 sec.

Math r hurd.