Help me create a 3.2 DW Frost DPS PvE spec!

[Baerut]

Here's what I have so far, your suggestions are gladly accepted... since I have no idea what I'm doing, really.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...&version=10192

I'm not a Theorycrafter by all means. I'm terrible with math and statistics so your help is appreciated!

[superstargoddess]

Go to ElitestJerks, threads like this make baby jesus cry. There are places to go for what you seek.

[Deathpuff]

Get rid of Acclimation and Hungering Cold, put those two points into Chill of The Grave and you're looking good.

[Sporatik]

If you re unaware of EJ I'm guessing you don't even have the gear for it anyways.

But like the other poster said go check them out. They, along with numberous other have running sims and testing since the ptr opened.

[Sjerusalem]

I plan to be DW Frost DPS, and i planning to go with this talent, many can argue its not the best but i like it
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...&version=10192

[comablack]

frost builds without chill of the grave are laughable, and a waste of space on the server

use one of the first 3 in this thread

http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t64830-d...venge_offhand/

[Shamb]

This is a build you can spec into

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...&version=10192

You can change glyph of disease of glyph of icy touch if you want.

If you do so I'd advise you to take the pts outta subversion to put em in BCB.

Have fun

[Keile]

frost builds without chill of the grave are laughable, and a waste of space on the server

use one of the first 3 in this thread

http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t64830-d...venge_offhand/

My only confusion about their guide is they never mention Howling Blast. It's in the specs they post so I'm ASSUMING they only intend for you to use it when KM+Rime proc and otherwise you just Obliterate.

[Fano7]

Only use HB on a group of mobs or when you have KM and Rime proced at the same time.

[Nyanmaru]

Only use HB on a group of mobs or when you have KM and Rime proced at the same time.

fixed.

[Nythiz]

fixed.

Actually he was right. You use HB when KM procs and Rime is up (or rime procs and KM is up). It does more dmg than frost strike.

Also, mind that the best spec includes UA. Fargom didnt include it in the OP because I told him it bugs out on the simulator. But in fact it should provide higher dps.

[Steakums]

I'm presently trying the first spec (53/18), i did 1/2 Chill of the Grave not noticing a huge loss in RP but might respec some..however i am curious as to why most of those builds did not include UA? 2min free trinket effect not worth it now or am i missing something..one post said something about a simulator but the spec's given showed 2/2 chill grave but no UA so there were no points free for it. Where would u take points from to add in UA?

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...al&n=Sufferage

Any suggestions on gearing? wondering if my hit is to low as i was noticing some misses from time to time, last night.

PS: I have fixed the gemming in my gear btw so my meta is active if it appears to not be on armory :P

[Sporatik]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...n=Arthastewart

I took 1 point from Killing Machine and still seemed to get a lit of procs.

[Malvo]

Actually he was right. You use HB when KM procs and Rime is up (or rime procs and KM is up). It does more dmg than frost strike.

Also, mind that the best spec includes UA. Fargom didnt include it in the OP because I told him it bugs out on the simulator. But in fact it should provide higher dps.

It doesn't do more damage than FS if you have decent weapons. But FS has a higher natural crit rate (especially if you have 2pc t8), so it's more beneficial to use the free crit on a HB.

[Nythiz]

I'm presently trying the first spec (53/18), i did 1/2 Chill of the Grave not noticing a huge loss in RP but might respec some..however i am curious as to why most of those builds did not include UA? 2min free trinket effect not worth it now or am i missing something..one post said something about a simulator but the spec's given showed 2/2 chill grave but no UA so there were no points free for it. Where would u take points from to add in UA?

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...al&n=Sufferage

Any suggestions on gearing? wondering if my hit is to low as i was noticing some misses from time to time, last night.

PS: I have fixed the gemming in my gear btw so my meta is active if it appears to not be on armory :P

UA is definitely better than a point in say KM or BCB.
It even says so on Elitist Jerks, but people dont read the post, they just click the build.

When I did the simulator runs on EJ, it didn't work too well with UA. So I mentioned that and the OP included that in the post. But people don't read I guess

Don't drop CotG though, its a great talent.

It doesn't do more damage than FS if you have decent weapons. But FS has a higher natural crit rate (especially if you have 2pc t8), so it's more beneficial to use the free crit on a HB.

Yea my bad. I said it wrong. Was thinking of something else for a bit.

KM FS does indeed hit harder, but as you mentioned has a higher crit% without KM. The chance that KM FS would have been a crit without KM is way higher.