Item level getting out of hand?

[tiberius]

Do you guys/girls think that the item level is getting out of hand now? I thought i idea of hard mode naxx loot being on the same level as regular ulduar loot was a great idea But with the Coliseum it they bumped the ilvl up even more. alot of the regular coliseum 25 man gear just blows ulduar 25 hard out of the water.

[bals]

would you rather have it be like bc where dragonspine trophy was bis for nearly every physical damage dealing class and dropped in one of the lowest raid instances? or frozen shadowweave that was crafted and not worth breaking until t6? (think that's when it got worse)

[TheMediator]

hard mode naxx loot

Huh? This does not compute.

[georgevonfranken]

hard mode naxx loot

where is this hard mode nax i would like to try it

[Wonderboy]

where is this hard mode nax i would like to try it

You have to resist killing Mr. Bigglesworth. All the bosses then become hard mode!

[Spurlij]

You have to resist killing Mr. Bigglesworth. All the bosses then become hard mode!

Not killing him is the hardest part of all of it.

[georgevonfranken]

You have to resist killing Mr. Bigglesworth. All the bosses then become hard mode!

sounds to hard i give up

[bug]

Do you guys/girls think that the item level is getting out of hand now? I thought i idea of hard mode naxx loot being on the same level as regular ulduar loot was a great idea But with the Coliseum it they bumped the ilvl up even more. alot of the regular coliseum 25 man gear just blows ulduar 25 hard out of the water.

you re wrong
just do simple math before trying to start a whining contest

its the same amount of scaling, wow did in vanilla


you can assume, that 272 is the ilvl for icecrown25. there maybe will exist 1 higher tier for arthas and heroic loot.
so you have a 35% scaling on items, starting with 200 ilvl naxx10


in vanilla, scaling started with 68 ilvl moltencore easy bosses and ended up with 92 ilvl kelthuzad40 (88 ilvl cthun)
its 35%, too

[chimpah]

...I thought i idea of hard mode naxx loot being on the same level as regular ulduar loot was a great idea...

Wait, what?

[Envojus]

would you rather have it be like bc where dragonspine trophy was bis for nearly every physical damage dealing class and dropped in one of the lowest raid instances? or frozen shadowweave that was crafted and not worth breaking until t6? (think that's when it got worse)

You mean like the 200iLvL Darkmoon card greatness?

[Thrilhouse]

You mean like the 200iLvL Darkmoon card greatness?

Yes, but that doesn't involve bringing your raid back to the same every week deep into T6 content because there is still a list of people who need that one specific item.

[blizzy]

So what? It is just a number.

This. Same goes for buffs and nerfs, by the way.

[Deleted]

Who cares about an item level? ROFL!

[panda911]

What I find amazing is that the difference in ilevel from Naxxramas 10 to Ulduar 25 hard mode was 39. Itemization aside, that sounds about right, not to little of a gap, not too large of one.

Now in Crusader's Coliseum, the standard 10 man loot is 232, and the best drop off of 25 man hard is 272, 40 iLevels apart. The gear gap that was made from November to August was just surpassed by the gear gap created by one patch.

You decide if it is out of hand.

[andy_mitchelluk]

alot of the regular coliseum 25 man gear just blows ulduar 25 hard out of the water.

Progression. I'd be a bit pissed if the current content gear wasn't ahead of ANY of the previous content's gear tbh.

It would kill the idea of doing the new content.

[Spl4sh3r]

Normal Crusader10 = 232 Ulduar10 = 219
Heroic Crusader10 = 245 Ulduar10 (hardmode) = 226/232
Normal Crusader10 (tribune) = 245 Ulduar25 = 226
Normal Crusader25 = 245 Ulduar10 (lastboss hardmode) = 226/232
Heroic Crusader10 (tribune hard) = 258 Ulduar25 (hardmode) = 232/239
Normal Crusader25 (tribune) = 258 Ulduar25 (lastboss hardmode) = 239
Heroic Crusader25 = 258
Heroic Crusader25 (tribune hard) = 272

Tribune runs seems compared to lastboss hardmodes :P tho not sure if tribune hard just means less tries on heroic or if its heroic and the normal tribune is normal mode with few tries

From what I can see both Crusader and Ulduar got 4 different iLvls only difference is that Crusader got alot more overlaps since they have more difficulties in the raid instance. What I don't understand tho is why ulduar 10man drops 219 instead of 213 and why crusader 10man drops 232 instead of 226 it just add more annoying odd numbers :P

[Deleted]

Normal Crusader10 = 232 Ulduar10 = 219
Heroic Crusader10 = 245 Ulduar10 (hardmode) = 226/232
Normal Crusader10 (tribune) = 245 Ulduar25 = 226
Normal Crusader25 = 245 Ulduar10 (lastboss hardmode) = 226/232
Heroic Crusader10 (tribune hard) = 258 Ulduar25 (hardmode) = 232/239
Normal Crusader25 (tribune) = 258 Ulduar25 (lastboss hardmode) = 239
Heroic Crusader25 = 258
Heroic Crusader25 (tribune hard) = 272

Tribune runs seems compared to lastboss hardmodes :P tho not sure if tribune hard just means less tries on heroic or if its heroic and the normal tribune is normal mode with few tries

From what I can see both Crusader and Ulduar got 4 different iLvls only difference is that Crusader got alot more overlaps since they have more difficulties in the raid instance. What I don't understand tho is why ulduar 10man drops 219 instead of 213 and why crusader 10man drops 232 instead of 226 it just add more annoying odd numbers :P

normal mode has no tribute run, iirc. hc is the tribute run, and doing the tribute run with less than X wipes is the hard tribute.

so the fixed one is this:

Normal Crusader10 = 232
Heroic Crusader10 = 245
Normal Crusader25 = 245
Heroic Crusader10 (<X wipes) = 258
Heroic Crusader25 = 258
Heroic Crusader25 (<X wipes) = 272

seems about right.

and one more thing: currently the best tanking trinket with +STAM pre 10 man yogg-saron (which in itself has an awful droprate) drops from normal ToC. tanks on my server are currently farming their collective asses off for this trinket, because the only non-JC alternative is an inferior blue from heroic hadronox with an even worse drop rate than the yogg trinket.

[Ess85]

Who cares about an item level? ROFL!

[mireigi]

Heroic Crusader25 (<X wipes) = 272

Heroic Crusader25 (<X wipes) = 258
Hardmode Heroic Crusader25 (<X wipes) = 258
Hardmode Heroic Crusader25 (NO wipes) = 272

[bbr]

sounds to hard i give up

STOP Killing mah poor kittayhhh !!!!!! T_T