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    MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    I don't think other classes have this problem, if they do, pls do correct me.
    But a well geared ulduar 25 hunter (mm spec ofcourse), ArP stacking, and a non-arcane shot spec, cause with a decent arp cap your steady shot will become better than your arcane shot.
    Rotation?
    chimera shot, aim shot, steady, steady, steady
    silence shot will be macro'd into the first 2 shots so i don't really count that shot into the rotation

    you will be doing this 80% of the time, mostly while drinking a coffie and watching a sitcom you enjoy once in a while moving but not more than 2.2 sec cause you don't want to disrupt your auto shot, the shot that does about 35% of your damage.

    We do 6-7K dps by doing this.

    My point? this is just borring... it's not even a challenge any more.. i'm even concidering going full time pvp with my hunter and making an other class my main char for a more fun rotation.

    I'm making this comment to see if other hunters are having the same problem, and are also just bored out with doing a 3 button rotation, wich can probably be made in 1 button macro for only a 200 dps loss or so.

    (sorry if my english ain't that great. It's not my native language)

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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    I dont really see you'r point. Was it so much more fun, or couldnt you do the macro with arcane shot in the rotation?
    Or even a better question, what class has it diffrent? And yes, all classes have the same problem. There is no supermad dps class that has to use 20keybinds just to dps.

    About the "only" a 200dps loss. Yea sure, you can macro it and lose some dps, but id have to choose only 1 hunter for a raid, and i see 2 similar geared ones, while 1 outperforms constantly the other by 200dps since the other is too lazy to even push 3 buttons and needed to cut it to 1. Guess which one id choose for a raid.

    Want it more complex. Sure here u go. Start monitoring your "hidden 45sec on proc trinkets". Start to push your c/d shots into the "proc"(aka, do even a steady more if needed, if it didnt procc after the "hidden cd" was over etcetc). Start pushing you'r c/d-s like raipid fire/readiness into the same sayd trinket proccs, while keeping in mind you dont lose an additional use of em since the boss fight is too long/too short.
    Sure, its not a huge dps gain, its only a few, but if you want it more intresting, you can make it more intresting no doubt. This was just 1 example how.

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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    Well if you want to waste a bunch of DPS potential by using that sequence macro, that's up to you. But when you get out DPSed by a lesser geared Hunter who is actually using a well timed shot priority, don't come back here crying with the obvious follow-up post "WHy can't I crack the top 5 on the charts?"

    Of course, I see this as more of a troll post. I doubt any guild who run enough to get to the gear point of completely dropping arcane shot would put up with any raider getting that lazy and would boot you for being a gear black hole.

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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    face the fact, top rating arena is only thing that requires skill nowdays, rest just sucks

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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    So which Ulduar fight would you use this "macro" on. I can't think of one, besides maybe mimiron phase 1? But that dosne't even last that long so might as well not do it...

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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowtiger
    face the fact, top rating arena is only thing that requires skill nowdays, rest just sucks
    There are many games that do PvP well, and WoW is not one of them. PvE has always been and always will be the main focus of WoW.

    Your statement is full of fail.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chronalis
    Rule #84 of WoW: Saying "Rotation" doesn't automatically make you a good player... or even a competent one.

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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    It was not really my point of making a macro of 1 button.. it's just to say that a 3 button rotation isn't really much of a challenge any more..

    And true, i like arena way more now, has way more of a challenge for hunters.

    Now even arcane shot ain't worth shooting any more cause of the ArP the damage of arcane ain't worth wasting a GC on.. the rotation just keeps getting smaller.

    edit:

    thx fr the tips kunn, i'll try watching that more now and work more on my timing with cd's and internal cooldowns

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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowtiger
    face the fact, top rating arena is only thing that requires skill nowdays, rest just sucks
    arena nowadays = get the op combo

    and faceroll the others
    and hope u got some luck that u kill em faster then they do to u
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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nelfmon
    I don't think other classes have this problem, if they do, pls do correct me.
    But a well geared ulduar 25 hunter (mm spec ofcourse), ArP stacking, and a non-arcane shot spec, cause with a decent arp cap your steady shot will become better than your arcane shot.
    Rotation?
    chimera shot, aim shot, steady, steady, steady
    silence shot will be macro'd into the first 2 shots so i don't really count that shot into the rotation

    you will be doing this 80% of the time, mostly while drinking a coffie and watching a sitcom you enjoy once in a while moving but not more than 2.2 sec cause you don't want to disrupt your auto shot, the shot that does about 35% of your damage.

    We do 6-7K dps by doing this.

    My point? this is just borring... it's not even a challenge any more.. i'm even concidering going full time pvp with my hunter and making an other class my main char for a more fun rotation.

    I'm making this comment to see if other hunters are having the same problem, and are also just bored out with doing a 3 button rotation, wich can probably be made in 1 button macro for only a 200 dps loss or so.

    (sorry if my english ain't that great. It's not my native language)
    If you want to make it interesting, why are you macroing? You could make it interesting by weaving shots. You could make it interesting by standing on your head and doing it with your eyes closed. My point is YOU chose to take a boring spec to get tghe most out of it. Don't piss and moan because it's what you want to do but don't like it. Go BM or SV if you don't like it.

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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    For me, the fun in this game does not come down to how many buttons I am pressing. Fun is progression, fun is getting that piece of gear you've been chasing for weeks, fun is getting together with your mates and pwning shit, fun is smashing that hard mode you've put so much time into learning, fun is well, fun. Pressing buttons is just what you do to play.

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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalti
    For me, the fun in this game does not come down to how many buttons I am pressing. Fun is progression, fun is getting that piece of gear you've been chasing for weeks, fun is getting together with your mates and pwning shit, fun is smashing that hard mode you've put so much time into learning, fun is well, fun. Pressing buttons is just what you do to play.
    What he said.

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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalti
    For me, the fun in this game does not come down to how many buttons I am pressing. Fun is progression, fun is getting that piece of gear you've been chasing for weeks, fun is getting together with your mates and pwning shit, fun is smashing that hard mode you've put so much time into learning, fun is well, fun. Pressing buttons is just what you do to play.
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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalti
    For me, the fun in this game does not come down to how many buttons I am pressing. Fun is progression, fun is getting that piece of gear you've been chasing for weeks, fun is getting together with your mates and pwning shit, fun is smashing that hard mode you've put so much time into learning, fun is well, fun. Pressing buttons is just what you do to play.
    this

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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowtiger
    face the fact, top rating arena is only thing that requires skill nowdays, rest just sucks
    Ahahahaha, oh man, thanks, I needed a good laugh.
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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nelfmon
    I don't think other classes have this problem, if they do, pls do correct me.
    But a well geared ulduar 25 hunter (mm spec ofcourse), ArP stacking, and a non-arcane shot spec, cause with a decent arp cap your steady shot will become better than your arcane shot.
    Rotation?
    chimera shot, aim shot, steady, steady, steady
    silence shot will be macro'd into the first 2 shots so i don't really count that shot into the rotation

    you will be doing this 80% of the time, mostly while drinking a coffie and watching a sitcom you enjoy once in a while moving but not more than 2.2 sec cause you don't want to disrupt your auto shot, the shot that does about 35% of your damage.

    We do 6-7K dps by doing this.

    My point? this is just borring... it's not even a challenge any more.. i'm even concidering going full time pvp with my hunter and making an other class my main char for a more fun rotation.

    I'm making this comment to see if other hunters are having the same problem, and are also just bored out with doing a 3 button rotation, wich can probably be made in 1 button macro for only a 200 dps loss or so.

    (sorry if my english ain't that great. It's not my native language)
    It looks like your shot rotation is messed up then, mine is:
    Serpent Sting, Aimedshot, Arcane Shot, then Chimera Shot...if i remember correctly aimed shot increases the damage from all other shots used after that (correct meh if im wrong)
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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roonweld
    It looks like your shot rotation is messed up then, mine is:
    Serpent Sting, Aimedshot, Arcane Shot, then Chimera Shot...if i remember correctly aimed shot increases the damage from all other shots used after that (correct meh if im wrong)
    You obviously failed to read the part where OP stated they use ArP spec. Meaning no Arcane Shot. Also, with either spec Chimera should be used above all else(assuming you already have SrS up). Chimera does more DPS than Aimed.

    It makes me sad when my Hunter is my lowest alt at lvl 20 and I know more about the class than some people who play it constantly.

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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    One thing to also look out for is that your SrS scales with your AP. So I would then reapply my SrS at moments when my AP is highest (Furious Howl, T8 4p Bonus proc, DMC- Greatness proc and 2nd trink proc) so that my Chimera will then hit for more, as well as my SrS will tick for more. Another thing to note, is that, in fights like IC, the runes also affect your SrS damage, so reapplying your SrS once you're standing in one of those will also increase your deeps.

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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by thisloser
    One thing to also look out for is that your SrS scales with your AP. So I would then reapply my SrS at moments when my AP is highest (Furious Howl, T8 4p Bonus proc, DMC- Greatness proc and 2nd trink proc) so that my Chimera will then hit for more, as well as my SrS will tick for more. Another thing to note, is that, in fights like IC, the runes also affect your SrS damage, so reapplying your SrS once you're standing in one of those will also increase your deeps.
    No, that has been fixed, every time u hit Chimera your Serpent will be refreshed according to current ap, so wasting another GCD on it is not worth it.

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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Callsign Grunge


    There are many games that do PvP well, and WoW is not one of them. PvE has always been and always will be the main focus of WoW.

    Your statement is full of fail.
    name one game that does pvp better then wow and if u say aion i hope u have a high flame resistance
    If Blizzard continues this s*** you will be able to get t9 / Furious in fishing dailies

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    Re: MM rotation, back to 1 button macro spamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nelfmon
    My point? this is just borring... it's not even a challenge any more.. i'm even concidering going full time pvp with my hunter and making an other class my main char for a more fun rotation.
    No.

    It's called PVE, and it's always been like that. That's the entire reason why PVE is so boring to most people, it's singleminded and boring. Has nothing to do with your class.


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    There are plenty of other classes out there with 3 or less buttons to push that do insane damage as well. (Mage, Destro Warlock, etc).
    Originally Posted by Ghostcrawler (Blue Tracker)
    We don't think burst is a problem in PvP right now.

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