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Originally Posted by Pretorian
LOL quite amusing yes lets argue .... yes that is right ..... but if it says 23 exp on his char sheet thats INCLUDING the racial bonus .... thus einstein.... he must be getting 20 from gear and 3 from the racial ....
the racial is included in the vale on the char sheet. its not omitted or left out for you to add later lol
so please try and have a vague clue before quoting and misiterperating facts eh
Science has made us gods even before we are worthy of being men: Jean Rostand. Yeah, Atheism is a religion like bald is a hair colour!.
Classic: "The tank is the driver, the healer is the fuel, and the DPS are the kids sitting in the back seat screaming and asking if they're there yet."
Irony >> "do they even realize that having a state religion IS THE REASON WE LEFT BRITTEN? god these people are idiots"
Right now Seal of Righteousness is broken anyway, when you judge an opponent it applies to seal procs, so if the numbers EJ is using are based on dps over time and not simulations of the damage we should be doing, SoR will get passed by SoC much sooner....
lololOriginally Posted by rafein
could have SWORN I saw little green numbers next to my weapon damage saying
"####-#### x1##%" as a warrior tank with +10% dmg to onehanded attacks talent
Removing one additional seal proc every 8 seconds from SoR won't make SoC superior.Originally Posted by Bluerelic
What you "feel" doesn't hold a cup of water to the actual results.Originally Posted by Nikoll
I quit the game, and this happens:
"You can now mount while under the skeleton effect of the Noggenfogger Elixir!"
Are you effing kidding me?!?!
******
Remember 3.0.......
at some point in this thread i think i said i use comm over sor. i was unaware of how bugged sor was at the time.
Pondering returning.
Nikoll - Retribution Paladin
Noob question inc:
Sorry, but i really cant understand how SoR can be better than SoC?
still my Paladin is only lvl 49, but the spell tooltip says that SoR deals 45holy dmg on every swing, in addition to Soc wich deals 30% wep dmg, wich is ALOT more. please explain. ^^
Sorry, still cant see how less dmg on every swing can be superior. but hey, im not a fulltime pally ^^Originally Posted by Sorrow_Blast
okay okay nvm if i aint lvl 80.
But then at lvl 80, what does SoR SO much better?
whaaaaaaaaat?Originally Posted by Sorrow_Blast
And Christ said to his disciples, "I shall grant you eternal Salvation!"
The disciples fell to their knees and replied, "Give us kings n00b!".
ooh, okay, i didnt know that SoR scaled with gear and SoC ONLY scales with Wep. ty for the info!Originally Posted by Sorrow_Blast
i know which one :>Originally Posted by Sorrow_Blast
but you don't glyph SoR
And Christ said to his disciples, "I shall grant you eternal Salvation!"
The disciples fell to their knees and replied, "Give us kings n00b!".
that and getting 2 seal procs on your judgment is a but broken.
Pondering returning.
Nikoll - Retribution Paladin
Here's a quick guide to roughy estimate your SoR damage:
Tooltip Damage * Talent damage boosts * Glyph of SoR * T8 Prot 2pc Set Bonus
so it's like
Tooltip Damage * 1.06 * 1.03 * 1.15 * 1.1 * 1.1 * 1.09 * 1.2 * 1.3
Tooltip Damage * 1.52 is passive damage increase
Tooltip Damage * 1.66 if you add Vengeance 3 stacks
Tooltip Damage * 1.82 if you use Avenging Wrath
Tooltip Damage * 1.99 if you use Avenging Wrath while Vengeance stacked to 3
Tooltip Damage * 2.58 if you add Warsong berserking
1.06 = Crusade
1.03 = Sanctified Retribution
1.15 = Seals of the Pure
1.10 = Glyph of SoR
1.10 = T8 Prot 2pc Set Bonus
1.09 = Vengeance (Situational)
1.20 = Avenging Wrath (On-demand Situational)
1.30 = Warsong Berserking (Situational, added for the lols)
So SoR and JoR actually does a LOT more damage than the tooltip states. Because tooltip takes its values from your AP, SP, Base Wep speed. Since these modifiers don't change any of these at all, tooltip won't reflect the change from the damage talents. Hope this helps.
OK this is what I've discovered, SoR is great for single target short fights, but is absolute trash when it comes to multiple/aoe fights.
Most of this testing is done on a target dummy and is a completely unrealistic encounter. When are you going to be attacking a boss by yourself for 5 minutes with aboslutely no raid/party buffs?
After fully raid buffed i can almost pick up an additional 10% crit, which scales way better with SoC and SoV, SoC absolutely demolishes SoR in a fight with even one more mob.
SoC just has had a bad reputation and there are people who are refusing to use this seal at all costs. Let go run a heroic together, i'll used command on trash and you use righteousness and we'll see who comes out on top.
So to answer the question, Seal of Command becomes better than righteousness on all other situations except for short single target fights.
I've been through it all...
kings used to be the 31 point talent
could out heal priest specced full ret
Mages didn't know repentance existed (Why can't i Blink!?)
People would post the cleanse meters instead of healing meters in MC
Losing a roll on Light Forge BP to a warrior.
Winning a roll on Helm of Valor against a warrior.
numbers says noOriginally Posted by Glorian
and single target = SoV with one hand tapped in the back
i didnt even speced with command. :