2 questions

[lichy]

1. about 5mans. no mob lasts more then 30 sec.. even bosses for that matter... do u think SoV is a bad choice for 5man?

2. i've herd from another pally (good dps one aswell!) that once 5 stacks of vengence are up her rotation changes from HoW>crusader strike>judgement>divine storm>concecration>exo
to judgement>crusader strike>HoW>divine storm>exo>con. she says it works well for her, and i can see the logic in it. question is, is it true that its better? (i got a raid to test this out tomorow to know for sure, but an answer right now wont hurt )

sorry if these questions been asked b4, i just couldnt find an answer

[Jpkto]

HoW is always first from what I've heard and between judgement and crusader strike it depends on what libram your using.

PvP librams give crusader strike a higher value since you shouldn't let the AP buff run out.

I'm not sure tho i'm holy 95% of the time >.>

[Eurytos]

FCFS is FCFS

[BurningStick]

FCFS is FCFS

and that is?

[Kyrstlol]

first come first served

whichever comes off cooldown first - hit it.
use a priority order to choose when 2+ come off at once

[Ronark]

and that is?

When 5 stacked CS > Judge > HoW > DS > Exo (if 100% crit) > Cons > Exo > HW (> HoR but not anymore)

[lichy]

and about the 5man seal? any answer?

[Whoopzz]

and about the 5man seal? any answer?

righteousness. You should be using this seal a lot.

[Agathon]

yes you need to switch between both.
i for instance carry 10 glyphs for both seals in my bags and switch a few times a night -.-
and i think it was stated on EJ somewhere that you would lose dps if you put J>CS.

[lichy]

i know i should switch, infact, i did 3man VH heroic last night with my 2 friends (i was the only dps) and i managed to pull allmost 4k dps.. but there i was the only dps so the bosses lasted more then 20-30sec

what im asking is when im in a group with good DPSers, when bosses last about 20 sec.. should i just use SoV or not be bothered to switch at all

[Agathon]

then just chainpull to have 3+ mobs at all times and use SoR :P
well i guess they (ej) discussed it somewhere how long the mob has to live after you have 5 stacks to surpass SoR, but iam to lazy to look for it now, iam sorry.

[lichy]

their math isnt allways right for every occasion

[Whoopzz]

I don't even bother using SoV in heroics. With talented and glyphed SoR, it would take a long boss fight(at least a minute) before I'd realize a difference in damage done. That's also assuming there aren't extra mobs within range of DS for the extra seal damage.

In fact, I find myself using SoR more during raids than SoV. I might seal twist for different phases, but my go-to seal is righteousness.

[lichy]

i can see why u would use SoR in raids for trash, or adds with little hp, but i do hope u dont use SoR on bosses in raids:P

[Prentice]

The difference between SoV and SoR in 5mans is pretty significant, but the fact is... its still just a 5man. Because the mobs die so fast, I'm just gonna be rolling SoV from start to finish.

[Ronark]

The difference between SoV and SoR in 5mans is pretty significant, but the fact is... its still just a 5man. Because the mobs die so fast, I'm just gonna be rolling SoV from start to finish.

Pretty much. The only 5 man where hard Deeps is needed is H ToC, and the mobs there last long enough to stack 5 stacks of HV anyhow (maybe except the second group of "trash" pulls).