Yoggy +1 , +0 enhancement shaman question

[Hellah]

I just wanted to know what is your opinion for this fight like an enhancement shaman? I want to know too what dps you can provide on it and where are you in the dmg metter.I really sux on this fight and want to find the reason :P, i`ll be glad if you can give me a video from Enhancement PoV for this encounter too


Thanks , Niki!

[Needonboots]

Damage meters are irrelevant on fights like that. Doing what is needed is far more important.

You'll probably be slightly below ranged anyway since you have to actually run to the tentacles.

[phyrix]

Enhancement shamans are already a bit behind the other dps atm, and not being able to actually look at the boss isn't going to help.

[Aerikaya]

DPS meters are irrelevant on fights like that. Doing what is needed is far more important.

Fixed.
As a DPS spec if you aren't doing damage you aren't doing your job. DPS numbers on this fight can be lower for some classes but that doesn't give you an excuse to be low on total damage.

[Idaho Immortal]

Damage meters are irrelevant on fights like that. Doing what is needed is far more important.

You'll probably be slightly below ranged anyway since you have to actually run to the tentacles.

Uhhhh... Have you seen meters from guilds that have downed Yoggy 0?


Pretty sure it's how they keep the add tanks from dying due to being overrun by immortal adds.


It's just a shot in the dark, but those meters are topped by 8k/9k dps. It seems pretty logical that the encounter requires high dps.

[tremulant]

Uhhhh... Have you seen meters from guilds that have downed Yoggy 0?


Pretty sure it's how they keep the add tanks from dying due to being overrun by immortal adds.


It's just a shot in the dark, but those meters are topped by 8k/9k dps. It seems pretty logical that the encounter requires high dps.

yes, i've seen meters, have you?

just as an example in premos kill they had a shaman at 18th place with 4.6k dps, does that mean he was bad?
the shaman might have been elemental though, but take their ret pala and rogue that are 16 and 17 on dps as an example, were they just being bad? no... if you look at damage done to yogg saron only, the same rogue was first on damage done to him, the ret pala was 3rd.
http://wowraid.com/gallery/0/1_13_07_09_8_19_52.jpg

hence, damage meter is irrelevant,
it's not that you don't need high dps/damage for the fight, it's that the meter doesn't represent anything other than which classes were assigned to aoe immortals.
(not to even mention that most aoers are basically over-killing the 1% immortals most of the time.)


to answer the original question, yes shamans are usually awful on this fight if you only look at the damage meter,
check damage done to the brain and damage done to yogg only to check if the shaman is carrying his weight.

[Prinnyabomination]

The fight is not the greatest for enhanceys, IMO. Although!!! We are possibly the best class for interrupts in my opinion. That is what I concentrate on the most when I'm doing it. Wind shear is also a ranged interrupt, which just makes it amazing against the guys who shoot out the purple crap in phase 1.

Enhancements should do pretty well on phase 3 for the most part, if your going to be killing the adds inperticular. The part that we are not the greatest on, or atleast me, is the brain. I'm nost sure why, sometimes I will actually do pretty decent, but no where NEAR others. We are extremely RNG based, so on a short fight, I usually always get crap for procs, not too mention you'll probably have dogs up for 1 attempt, while alot of other classes have much better burst CDs. Either way tho, other than that enhanceys are the shiat.

I see alot of peeps saying enhanceys damage is low, but just from my perspective, I do relatively pretty decent in comparison to others. I even top some fights like ignasty or kologarn, even xt sometimes. Although, thats usually when I get lucky as hell, like not getting light bombed etc... Either way, I'm usually right by our death knight who is a beast mongler.

[Annoying]

Buffbot for the FoK spam =D

[Sunwind]

I usually top the meters in our raids as enhance, but on yogg it's not a dps race, it's about the fight mechanics and survival, interrupt the tentacles, stay within range when linked, keep insanity up etc, it's not like the enrage timer is an issue.

[Voltus]

Heres the thing with enhancement..

We have incredible Burst DPS, sometimes ( with good crit strings ) and our dogs out we can basically obliterate the rest of the competition for about 20 seconds..

we cannot however sustain this amount of burst as all things must even out ..

Fights like Kologarn/ XT/ Ignis we will always do well due to the basic nature of the fight.. XT more so because the heart allows us to get a good lead on burst with double damage modifiers we can get a good head start..

the down side to this amazing burst is the fact we dont have a lot of dots and when required to move a lot the dmg we output is basic and immediate on each individual target..

this has been somewhat fixed in that flame shock has been adjusted and glyphing it will now allow us to include it in the rotation. it may not be much but adding a glyphed flame shock to your rotation and /or using it on fights where you have multiple targets ( heroic anub p2) when you have to move to another target you can get some dots happening. my suggestion is use the new flame shock glyph/spec of 51/20 and practice using more flame shocks on fights like Yogg+1. eventually you will re-work it back into your rotation. I have noticed a dps increase across the board, on single target fights like XT, and multi switch fights like heroic Anub.

let us not forget Enhancement is a Utility class, we are not pure dps like rogues/locks/mages even warriors are more pure as a dps class then us. This does not mean however we do not have our place.
Any respectable guild /raid would want to have 1 of each Shaman spec in the raid.

if you are hell bent on damage meters, get Skada instead of recount.. it shows damage breakdowns on each enemy target, so you can compare yourself on things like Brain damage and specific mob damage