1. #1

    Help Please (T9 selection)

    Okay. I'm a MM Armor Penetration Hunter with a Armor Penetration Rating at 534 (43.46%) and I cant clearly make up my mind of which 2 T9 pieces to pick. I have a Trophy of the Crusade so i wanna pick a standard T9 and a piece of the T9 at the next step with the Trophy. Please view my Armory link and tell me what you think..

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...n=Shadowshotie

    PS: I do have Spire of Withering Dreams if in the need of Haste from the selection.
    Just say if you need more info of any sort.


  2. #2

    Re: Help Please (T9 selection)

    If this helps at all mate, here is the list of MaxDPS items from EJ that I have been referencing:

    Gear:
    Main Hand - Hellion Glaive (Heroic)
    Yellow Socket 1 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)
    Red Socket 2 - Delicate Dragon's Eye (34 Agi)
    Enchant - Massacre (Two Hand)

    Head - Windrunner's Headpiece of Triumph (Heroic)
    Enchant - Arcanum of Torment
    Meta Socket 1 - Relentless Earthsiege Diamond (21 Agi)
    Yellow Socket 2 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)

    Neck - Charge of the Eredar (Heroic)
    Red Socket 1 - Delicate Dragon's Eye (34 Agi)

    Shoulders - Pauldrons of the Devourer
    Enchant - Greater Inscription of the Axe
    Yellow Socket 1 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)

    Back - Sylvanas' Cunning
    Enchant - Major Agility
    Red Socket 1 - Delicate Dragon's Eye (34 Agi)

    Chest - Windrunner's Tunic of Triumph (Heroic)
    Enchant - Powerful Stats
    Red Socket 1 - Delicate Cardinal Ruby (20 Agi)
    Yellow Socket 2 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)

    Wrist - Bracers of the Silent Massacre (Heroic)
    Enchant - Greater Assault
    Yellow Socket 1 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)
    Prismatic Socket - Delicate Cardinal Ruby (20 Agi)

    Hands - Windrunner's Handguards of Triumph (Heroic)
    Enchant - Major Agility
    Yellow Socket 1 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)
    Prismatic Socket - Delicate Cardinal Ruby (20 Agi)

    Waist - Waistguard of Deathly Dominion (Heroic)
    Enchant - Eternal Belt Buckle
    Yellow Socket 1 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)
    Red Socket 2 - Delicate Cardinal Ruby (20 Agi)
    Prismatic Socket - Delicate Cardinal Ruby (20 Agi)

    Legs - Windrunner's Legguards of Triumph (Heroic)
    Enchant - Icescale Leg Armor
    Blue Socket 1 - Nightmare Tear (+10 to all stats)
    Red Socket 2 - Delicate Cardinal Ruby (20 Agi)

    Feet - Greaves of Ruthless Judgment (Heroic)
    Enchant - Superior Agility
    Yellow Socket 1 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)
    Yellow Socket 2 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)

    Ring 1 - Band of Callous Aggression (Heroic)
    Blue Socket 1 - Delicate Cardinal Ruby (20 Agi)

    Ring 2 - Planestalker Band (Heroic)
    Yellow Socket 2 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)

    Trinket 1 - Death's Choice (Heroic)

    Trinket 2 - Mjolnir Runestone

    Ranged Weapon - Fezzik's Autocannon
    Enchant - Heartseeker Scope
    Yellow Socket 1 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)

    This comes out at 10892DPS from the spreadsheet.

  3. #3

    Re: Help Please (T9 selection)

    So, my point was if you buy the Shoulders with your badges first, that may be the best value as they are still technically BiS, whereas if you purchase the tier gear, even with the Trophy, you will most likely be replacing it once you get token drops from Heroic Mode.

  4. #4

    Re: Help Please (T9 selection)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalti
    If this helps at all mate, here is the list of MaxDPS items from EJ that I have been referencing:

    Gear:
    Main Hand - Hellion Glaive (Heroic)
    Yellow Socket 1 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)
    Red Socket 2 - Delicate Dragon's Eye (34 Agi)
    Enchant - Massacre (Two Hand)

    Head - Windrunner's Headpiece of Triumph (Heroic)
    Enchant - Arcanum of Torment
    Meta Socket 1 - Relentless Earthsiege Diamond (21 Agi)
    Yellow Socket 2 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)

    Neck - Charge of the Eredar (Heroic)
    Red Socket 1 - Delicate Dragon's Eye (34 Agi)

    Shoulders - Pauldrons of the Devourer
    Enchant - Greater Inscription of the Axe
    Yellow Socket 1 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)

    Back - Sylvanas' Cunning
    Enchant - Major Agility
    Red Socket 1 - Delicate Dragon's Eye (34 Agi)

    Chest - Windrunner's Tunic of Triumph (Heroic)
    Enchant - Powerful Stats
    Red Socket 1 - Delicate Cardinal Ruby (20 Agi)
    Yellow Socket 2 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)

    Wrist - Bracers of the Silent Massacre (Heroic)
    Enchant - Greater Assault
    Yellow Socket 1 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)
    Prismatic Socket - Delicate Cardinal Ruby (20 Agi)

    Hands - Windrunner's Handguards of Triumph (Heroic)
    Enchant - Major Agility
    Yellow Socket 1 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)
    Prismatic Socket - Delicate Cardinal Ruby (20 Agi)

    Waist - Waistguard of Deathly Dominion (Heroic)
    Enchant - Eternal Belt Buckle
    Yellow Socket 1 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)
    Red Socket 2 - Delicate Cardinal Ruby (20 Agi)
    Prismatic Socket - Delicate Cardinal Ruby (20 Agi)

    Legs - Windrunner's Legguards of Triumph (Heroic)
    Enchant - Icescale Leg Armor
    Blue Socket 1 - Nightmare Tear (+10 to all stats)
    Red Socket 2 - Delicate Cardinal Ruby (20 Agi)

    Feet - Greaves of Ruthless Judgment (Heroic)
    Enchant - Superior Agility
    Yellow Socket 1 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)
    Yellow Socket 2 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)

    Ring 1 - Band of Callous Aggression (Heroic)
    Blue Socket 1 - Delicate Cardinal Ruby (20 Agi)

    Ring 2 - Planestalker Band (Heroic)
    Yellow Socket 2 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)

    Trinket 1 - Death's Choice (Heroic)

    Trinket 2 - Mjolnir Runestone

    Ranged Weapon - Fezzik's Autocannon
    Enchant - Heartseeker Scope
    Yellow Socket 1 - Deadly Ametrine (10 Agi, 10 Crit)

    This comes out at 10892DPS from the spreadsheet.
    Thank you for creating this list.

    While I do think this list is pretty accurate, I'm sure it is subject to change.

    In my opinion, you should buy whatever you feel is the biggest upgrade for you. Not everyone is going to be able to get all this heroic gear without a high end guild, assuming that Heroic 25 man ToC is going to be tough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chronalis
    Rule #84 of WoW: Saying "Rotation" doesn't automatically make you a good player... or even a competent one.

  5. #5

    Re: Help Please (T9 selection)

    Don't waste emblems on standard t9.... wait till you have two trophy's if you want to keep bonus's up.

  6. #6

    Re: Help Please (T9 selection)

    Quote Originally Posted by Callsign Grunge
    Not everyone is going to be able to get all this heroic gear without a high end guild, assuming that Heroic 25 man ToC is going to be tough.
    Indeed, however changing all the Heroic tiered pieces to their Trophy-bought counterparts is still higher theoretical DPS than any off-set gear availiable from the non-heroic instance.

    That is the simplicity which Blizzard have cursed us with in this patch; the only difference between non-heroic BiS and Heroic BiS is the '(Heroic)' bit at the end, there's not much choice really.

    Also to note, which I should have mentioned before is that from this gear list you will be at 564 ArP without gemming for ArP, hence the Agi or Agi/Crit gemming pattern.

  7. #7

    Re: Help Please (T9 selection)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalti
    Indeed, however changing all the Heroic tiered pieces to their Trophy-bought counterparts is still higher theoretical DPS than any off-set gear availiable from the non-heroic instance.

    That is the simplicity which Blizzard have cursed us with in this patch; the only difference between non-heroic BiS and Heroic BiS is the '(Heroic)' bit at the end, there's not much choice really.

    Also to note, which I should have mentioned before is that from this gear list you will be at 564 ArP without gemming for ArP, hence the Agi or Agi/Crit gemming pattern.
    I see what you mean.

    In that case, follow the guide and all the heroic pieces should be easily attainable through the normal version 25 man, just with a lower item level and lower stats etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chronalis
    Rule #84 of WoW: Saying "Rotation" doesn't automatically make you a good player... or even a competent one.

  8. #8

    Re: Help Please (T9 selection)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rullis
    The first one you should buy is the legs, they are imbaaa.

    2nd get gloves. if u dont get hitcapped just take a point in focused aim (we have 3 "wasted" points as mm, some ppl put in hunters mark, some arcane, some efficeny..)
    I'm not gonna go into the "wasted" comment...

    But the legs are quite amazing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chronalis
    Rule #84 of WoW: Saying "Rotation" doesn't automatically make you a good player... or even a competent one.

  9. #9

    Re: Help Please (T9 selection)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rullis
    Well don't, but thats what the cookiecutter MM specc have. 3 points in arcane shot.
    Yeah but they're not "Wasted" points, they contribute toward DPS. You can put them into other talents depending which gear makeup you have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chronalis
    Rule #84 of WoW: Saying "Rotation" doesn't automatically make you a good player... or even a competent one.

  10. #10

    Re: Help Please (T9 selection)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalti
    Indeed, however changing all the Heroic tiered pieces to their Trophy-bought counterparts is still higher theoretical DPS than any off-set gear availiable from the non-heroic instance.

    That is the simplicity which Blizzard have cursed us with in this patch; the only difference between non-heroic BiS and Heroic BiS is the '(Heroic)' bit at the end, there's not much choice really.

    Also to note, which I should have mentioned before is that from this gear list you will be at 564 ArP without gemming for ArP, hence the Agi or Agi/Crit gemming pattern.
    If we gem all the slots with ArP, it would be around 70% passive ArP. Would this be good?

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