Bring back 2hand shamans :D

[lep]

Since they are revamping the talent trees to get rid of bullshit talents that grant you 1% ~damage / hit/ whatever~ , I hope we get some talents that would make 2h shaman viable again.

Watching Unbreakable's videos got me into this game during late vanilla period and I was sad for 2h to become useless, even after I won the 2hander in SCC haha.

Anyone else feel that we should get some 2h loving or will it be too much like ret with a potential to get too overpowered fast ?

Or is 2h a direction that shaman will never again take and the 2.6 1handers becoming the signature of enhancement?

[General Vezax]

Why would you want to use a 2h?

[TerryBogard]

Why would you want to use a 2h?

It gives the class more depth? More options are always better than less.

[General Vezax]

so you want the 2h/DW balancing nightmare that DKs have?

You also made this thread with the sole reason of it being OP. No, shaman will not 1-shot people with windfury proccing off of itself that procced from a proc and crit anymore.

[Nikoll]

you can use a two hander all you want. Wow isnt stopping you. Your guild leader probaly will, but not blizzard.

[bantu]

I would love a totem to wear on my back!

[Kalioshas]

I would love a totem to wear on my back!

I'd like that log tauren had in WC3, to smash things with!

[Therm]

mm Would be cool if they gave use something that makes wf proc more when a 2h is equip. but wont happen lawl

[Kaseladen]

I miss the days of 2h'ers. Not for OP'ness, I just prefer them to dual wielding. With the talent revamp, as stated, this would be a good time to give us some fighting style variation. They could throw in some talents to make it on par with dw.

[Kyrottas]

Keep 2H the way they are.

If you go to a 2 hander you'll miss out on some Maelstrom Procs, you'll miss your Flametongue offhand and Lava Lash.

[Kaseladen]

Keep 2H the way they are.

If you go to a 2 hander you'll miss out on some Maelstrom Procs, you'll miss your Flametongue offhand and Lava Lash.

You assume that there would be no other talents added in or altered. Obviously as things stand 2h'ers aren't viable. That isn't to say they couldn't be in the future.

[Kduruh]

it gives the class more depth? i exactly the oposite, you'll just have more bursty damage with less control, a lot of shamans complain about the RNG still present in WF and my having a 2h it would just be even more random or they could give you some abilities where you'd have some really high damage attacks with a 2h, but then the attacks would have to deal really huge ammounts of damage which would probably cause some unbalanced situations to PVP.

[Zarios]

2handers should never be Viable imo.

[Kaseladen]

it gives the class more depth? i exactly the oposite, you'll just have more bursty damage with less control, a lot of shamans complain about the RNG still present in WF and my having a 2h it would just be even more random or they could give you some abilities where you'd have some really high damage attacks with a 2h, but then the attacks would have to deal really huge ammounts of damage which would probably cause some unbalanced situations to PVP.

Such a thing could be worked around through talents. They could add a small branch of talents that effect how current mechanics differ when using a 2h, or offer certain abilities that you need a 2h to activate. The burst can be worked around.

[Vordie]

Imagine a 2hand drop...

Warriors, paladins, DKs AND shamans need it..? You would never get what you want.

[Kaseladen]

Imagine a 2hand drop...

Warriors, paladins, DKs AND shamans need it..? You would never get what you want.

If there's str on it, then the plates can fight for it. If there's just agility on it then shaman/hunters.

[TerryBogard]

If there's str on it, then the plates can fight for it. If there's just agility on it then shaman/hunters.

Fixed.

Mainhand over statstick every time. Sorry hunters, just simple loot priority.

it gives the class more depth? i exactly the oposite, you'll just have more bursty damage with less control, a lot of shamans complain about the RNG still present in WF and my having a 2h it would just be even more random or they could give you some abilities where you'd have some really high damage attacks with a 2h, but then the attacks would have to deal really huge ammounts of damage which would probably cause some unbalanced situations to PVP.

Yes more depth. As it stands we can only use slow 1H weapons. If you were to add 2H and/or fast 1H weapons to that list of viable weapons then the depth is increased.
More swings with 1H weapons equal more chances for weapons to proc but less damage when they do. Less swings with 2H weapons equal less chances for a weapon to proc but more damage when they do. 2H weapons would be more bursty while 1H weapons would provide a steadier amount of damage. It really doesnt need to be more complicated than that.

[Baabinator]

Imagine a 2hand drop...

Warriors, paladins, DKs AND shamans need it..? You would never get what you want.

Lol we already have that issue with 1handers =3

Edit:

They could make us in theory able to use polearms. And simply create a talent to set our weapon speed to a certain amount for 2handers in order to prevent the weapon with 300 dps and 3.8 speed waaaay better then something with 350 dps and 3.5 speed. And would prevent ret pallys etc picking the weapon just because they are slow.

If they would simply make Windfury a PPM mechanic this COULD work. A simple 5-6 PPM system would cut it (Because you would have more procs with stormstrikes as well). Would work better if the inner cooldown was FINALLY removed.

[op3l]

I don't see how this can work for a shaman.

2 handers were used before for PvP simply cause they can one shot people IF the WF procced.

Now with resilience and the sheer amount of HP, it'll be hard to do and simply too random. DKs, ret pallies, and arms warriors make 2 handers work because they've got other skills to use besides auto attack, a shock, a weak melee filler, and every 5 seconds or so a lightning bolt.

Even if they made Lava Lash usable with a 2 hander, the amount of wait time between skills would make me at least, fall asleep. They would have to add another talent that's purely for 2 hander enhance shamans just to make it work for PvE and I honestly don't see that happening.

Give up this fascination with shamans using 2 handers folks, it won't happen. Like another poster above me has said, no one is stopping you from using it if you want to do horrible DPS.

[mangoarizona]

Imagine a 2hand drop...

Warriors, paladins, DKs AND shamans need it..? You would never get what you want.

Totally. Just like Locks, Priests, Boomkin, Ele Shams and Mages can all roll on cloth. Shaman would just be on the bottom of the barrel. Just as they are with cloth. Big deal, shaman have been used to it for a while.