Blood DPS help.

[Hammerfrost]

Hey guys. I just want some tips for dps improvement. ^^

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...s&n=Wintersnow is my armory. keep in mind it's just my alt.

So.. I just want tips on what gemming I can change, what items I can go for.. what stats to balance.

[kerumilas]

Hey guys. I just want some tips for dps improvement. ^^

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...s&n=Wintersnow is my armory. keep in mind it's just my alt.

So.. I just want tips on what gemming I can change, what items I can go for.. what stats to balance.

Armory is being retarted so I can't say anything about the mojority of your gear, but replace your MoT with either Grim Toll or Mjolnir Runestone.

[Bob002]

1. Level your professions.
2. 51/13/7 is a tad better dps spec for blood.
3. Could get a tad more hit still.
4. More expertise (you're still 10 under cap).

[blackcrank789]

My armory isn't working either, but if you have shitty or close to shitty gear I.E. less than 20% ar pen. Then just go Unholy. But you gem strength until you have 6k ap raid buffed and then you stack ar pen as blood because ar pen is an extremely close second to strength in stat weights for a DK. Expertise is last on your list to be honest your toughest challenge is going to stay close to the hit cap. You are probably gonna end up way above it.
Also 51/13/7 is not a better spec for raid dps.
51/0/20 is the only way to go. Put 1 of you 3/3 out of Blood caked into epidemic.
Armory worked, the 4piece for Blood sucks a fatty, just get more armor pen gear.

[LocutuS]

Sigil of the Vengeful Heart is a little better than yours

1. Level your professions.
2. 51/13/7 is a tad better dps spec for blood.
3. Could get a tad more hit still.
4. More expertise (you're still 10 under cap).

51/13/7 died when obliterate was removed from might of mograine and imp death strike was implemented, his spec is fine

[Daehauq]

2. 51/13/7 is a tad better dps spec for blood.

Are you still playing pre-3.1.?

[Bob002]

Are you still playing pre-3.1.?

I might be! I may have been thinking of something else as well. Too much info rattling around in my brain.

[Hammerfrost]

My armory isn't working either, but if you have shitty or close to shitty gear I.E. less than 20% ar pen. Then just go Unholy. But you gem strength until you have 6k ap raid buffed and then you stack ar pen as blood because ar pen is an extremely close second to strength in stat weights for a DK. Expertise is last on your list to be honest your toughest challenge is going to stay close to the hit cap. You are probably gonna end up way above it.
Also 51/13/7 is not a better spec for raid dps.
51/0/20 is the only way to go. Put 1 of you 3/3 out of Blood caked into epidemic.
Armory worked, the 4piece for Blood sucks a fatty, just get more armor pen gear.

Problem is, I am just an alt and I dont have access to uld25/toc25 >< hard to get those items, and I always lose grim toll in pugs

I am just about to regem for some arp, and btw is furious 2 hander better than edge of ruin?

Thanks, I wasnt rolling on some items for the 4p bonus now that I know it's crap I'll totally refill^^

[caribou]

... the 4piece for Blood sucks a fatty, just get more armor pen gear.

Our insane DPS blood knights take all the Uld25 non-set pieces. The one is at nearly 100% armor pen with Grim Toll proc'd.

[Shiira]

Our insane DPS blood knights take all the Uld25 non-set pieces. The one is at nearly 100% armor pen with Grim Toll proc'd.

The bis set for blood before 3.2 was released used the t8 4pc, but that's only because a lot of the non set gear is badly itemised enough to make the bad set bonuses still worth getting.

[LocutuS]

dont gem arpen, gear gives all the armor pen you need

Our insane DPS blood knights take all the Uld25 non-set pieces. The one is at nearly 100% armor pen with Grim Toll proc'd.

thats easy to get, i have 38% armor penetration (+10% extra with blood gorged so it would be 48%) AND the 4p t8, mjolnir puts me at 92% armor penetration (102% as blood) and i dont even have 1 armor penetration gem

[Cracka_Bob]

Str > ArP since Str affects all attacks and abilities and ArP only affects physical dmg

ArP isnt useless but i wouldnt gem for it over Str

and another build you could try is this

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...&version=10192

i dont know for sure which is better out of DRW and UB but a few dks on my server use the UB blood build

[Gajan]

Str > ArP since Str affects all attacks and abilities and ArP only affects physical dmg

ArP isnt useless but i wouldnt gem for it over Str

and another build you could try is this

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...&version=10192

i dont know for sure which is better out of DRW and UB but a few dks on my server use the UB blood build

A few dks on your server fail. DRW does a lot more damage than UB. UB is easier to use, especially since the change to it now that it's basically passive. If DRW is managed correctly, it could do almost twice as much damage as UB.

And as others have already said, once you get around 6.3k AP fully buffed, you can gem for ArP if you have not reached the soft cap of around 45% passive ArP. Until you have that AP number though, Str>ArP.

[Nangz]

My armory isn't working either, but if you have shitty or close to shitty gear I.E. less than 20% ar pen. Then just go Unholy. But you gem strength until you have 6k ap raid buffed and then you stack ar pen as blood because ar pen is an extremely close second to strength in stat weights for a DK. Expertise is last on your list to be honest your toughest challenge is going to stay close to the hit cap. You are probably gonna end up way above it.
Also 51/13/7 is not a better spec for raid dps.
51/0/20 is the only way to go. Put 1 of you 3/3 out of Blood caked into epidemic.
Armory worked, the 4piece for Blood sucks a fatty, just get more armor pen gear.

good response only things to note bcb is a bit over 1% damage per point necrolisis is just under 1% and morbidity is at .6% per point

never take points out of bcb and necro unless you have to epidemic is good but only max it with points from morbidity

bcb and necro can scale with haste which is nice

Also from my view

51/13/7 is pre 3.1 spec it uses obliterate as its double rune strike and following the 3.1 nerf it isnt as good anymore

51/00/20 is the current top dps spec drw is what you should be using as much as possible

50/00/21 is good for people who prefer a consistant rotation ub doesnt scale nearly aswell as drw and this spec is NOT the top dps one atm i do NOT suggest it

Op do you know the 3.2 blood rotation?

[Hammerfrost]

ice touch -> plague strike -> hs hs -> ds -> dc dc , ds -> 4 hs's -> dc dc -> renew disiese -> hs when blood rune dc when blood rune on cd -> dc when everything on cd :?

I usualy pull 5k on the first 1 minute (hysteria, drw, procs etc) but than it drops to 4k and it bounces from 3.9 to 4.2 depending on crits misses etc

Thanks for the responses everybody, gotta make myself a gear list to top my expertise, add some hit etc etc.

[Cracka_Bob]

A few dks on your server fail. DRW does a lot more damage than UB. UB is easier to use, especially since the change to it now that it's basically passive. If DRW is managed correctly, it could do almost twice as much damage as UB.

And as others have already said, once you get around 6.3k AP fully buffed, you can gem for ArP if you have not reached the soft cap of around 45% passive ArP. Until you have that AP number though, Str>ArP.

like i said i dont know which is better... i dont play blood but i was just suggesting the spec in case the OP wanted to test it and see how it "felt"

[brailagise]

If you want to maxamise get 6200 ap then gem arp. when you can make it to the soft cap with only gear regem strength. until then it is proven to be a increase to regem arp over strength

[Venema]

im seeing different rotations everytime i look at a DK posting his Rotation ...
the one i use is IT>PS>DS>HS>HS>DS>DS>HS>HS>HS>HS around that anyway i dont get enough time to monitor it when your doing the likes of firefighter etc
dunno if you have Grim Toll because your logged in PVP Gear but you wil need that as a big bonus!

[Nangz]

IT>PS>HSx2>DS>runic dump (dc)> HSx4>DS>runic dump


You have 2 gcds for a runic dump each time

watch out and dont HS after diseases have fallen off

begin your rotation with DS at starts of fights IF getting aboms might (10% ap) would give a raid more dps than your dps loss. ( covered by melee shammy and mm hunter aswell)

[Daehauq]

IT>PS>HSx2>DS>runic dump (dc)> HSx4>DS>runic dump

HS*4-DS doesn't make sense. First runes available for the 2nd part are Frost and Unholy rune (used for IT-PS) so DS would be the next ability to used.
If you, or anyone in that matter, actually use that rotation you have a serious issue, since it would result the following: FU's used for IT-PS will be ready again, but not used for 6sec (4*HS = 4 GCDs = 6sec) and when they would finally be used, for DS, the next available runes would be 2 Blood. But since diseases have fallen off you have to wait 3sec more to use IT-PS and by this time the 2 Blood runes have been ready for 3sec. Thus your total time lost in this rotation is a whopping 12sec (out of the possible 20sec rotation) and I call it a fake (or just a typo )