OP healers

[chrion]

People have no shame, double healing teams in 3v3 are cheesey, prot pallies in 2v2 are skillfree...basically the issues im having with the game lately is the basic design idea that healers should be so powerful, and these cleave teams. Healing class's should be there to keep there team alive a bit longer than they normally would, but any healer thats left alone with a dps should be in serious trouble, he should die 99% of the time. The healer should not be powerful enough to 1v1 anything, running in a circle around a pillar for 40 minutes does not make you any good. Every pillar (including the boxes in the sewers) should go down like the pillars in ogrimmar arena to prevent skillfree circle running for insane amounts of time so we can see who is actually better. Theres alot of cheese comps running right now, PMR takes skill on the other hand, offensive cooldown management, CC management, timing, switches, burst, DR management, survival CD management, theres a million PMR teams in the 1500's because its not as easy as they thought when they read about the comp being "OP", the PMR's at 2800 deserve to be there because obviously there very good sick players. On the other hand the double healer cleanse warrior comps, and the cheese cleave comps have amazingly bloated ratings waaaaaaaaay beyond how good they actually are, and thats the thing thats so annoying, these people actually think there 2300 players or whatever rating they are at. They dont get that after every match the other team is just talking about how cheesey there comp is and how bad they are (trinket sap??!!) EVERYONE just seems to be looking for the easiest way to get a fake bloated rating, basically these bads are trying to cheat as bad as they can to make themselves feel like there good. Obviously its blizzards job to balance the game (and it should be balanced for pvp, the side effect that has on pve, whatever, who cares, there just pew pewing boss's) I just want it to be competetive all around. After losing to some of these teams it can be very frustrating to know they are carried completely by there lame comp. Anyway you keep holding in that W key with your eyes closed spamming your buttons mindlessly cleave teams! Ill continue to have fun in the arena, its never going to be perfect but thats whats currently on my mind.

[Stayven]

Yes the healers should just stand there like retards getting beaten on by dps classes and not try to use their abilities to survive at all..
Mabye you should stick to attacking target dummies if you dont like people moving.
~Stayv.

[holkim]

Punctuation and breathing space, would make that post easier to read.

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Might be worth saying that its the design of the game. Your supposed to use your sorroundings as well.

[Leafar]

Okay, i see and agree,

I'll use now shadow word death every CD to help the dps of the other team.

Pass.

[chrion]

I dont mind a healer seeing me cast a sheep and step behind a pillar to dodge it, and i dont kind having to time cc with kidney shot to get casts and kills, its not a specific problem to me in 3v3, its mostly bad in 2v2 with resto shamans and prot pallies that cant be oomed 1v1. Disc priests 1v1 is challenging and fun to oom and kill.

[Quantitative]

Healing class's should be there to keep there team alive a bit longer than they normally would, but any healer thats left alone with a dps should be in serious trouble, he should die 99% of the time. The healer should not be powerful enough to 1v1 anything

Basically you are saying that 4 commonly used specs in the game should become useless and unplayable? I'm sure that is EXACTLY what blizz is going for.

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[chrion]

Just don't play Arena

its the best part of the game, theres always been issues, always will be, its still a ton of fun. These are just the issues right now, alot of good players are losing matches to bad players who have cheese comps.

[Auria]

i sometimes question myself....why ppl start to QQ about PvP and then read the ppls post....
the OP clearly says..RMP (PMR Hell) is a GOOD comp due to CC etc etc etc...so u need good players to play that RMP comp..True...but then again if you say the other COMPS SUCK with dubble healer u prolly suck as well because u cant kill them and the RMP can...
sometimes i think blizz should just throw out Arena and PvP as a whole and start balancing PvE more...

I had a dream!

[chrion]

Basically you are saying that 4 commonly used specs in the game should become useless and unplayable? I'm sure that is EXACTLY what blizz is going for.

no not useless, just toned way down, loooong matches till people are oom are not a good thing, the beginning of season 5 felt about right to me

[ValarOne]

Healing class's should be there to keep there team alive a bit longer than they normally would, but any healer thats left alone with a dps should be in serious trouble, he should die 99% of the time. The healer should not be powerful enough to 1v1 anything,

Thats wrong man.. Who the fuck would play a class / spec who gets killed by every dps class!? FAIL!
And think about battlegrounds.. If someone gets to you, you would die 99% of the time!? FAILFAILFAIL!

[Ragnadriel]

no not useless, just toned way down, loooong matches till people are oom are not a good thing, the beginning of season 5 felt about right to me

just another facerolling rogue who can't get a decent healer down, move along now.

[chrion]

i sometimes question myself....why ppl start to QQ about PvP and then read the ppls post....
the OP clearly says..RMP (PMR Hell) is a GOOD comp due to CC etc etc etc...so u need good players to play that RMP comp..True...but then again if you say the other COMPS SUCK with dubble healer u prolly suck as well because u cant kill them and the RMP can...
sometimes i think blizz should just throw out Arena and PvP as a whole and start balancing PvE more...

I had a dream!

we can kill them, its just that with certain comps (and not just for my team for alot of teams) you lose to players that arent as good as there rating shows, and they can get cheese wins off of better teams because they make these comps on purpose, for the sole reason that its easy mode, there isnt much to it except pick a target and spam everything you have on it.

[massivebox]

i agree there might be some comps that require less skill but nevertheless that's no reason to be hating on healers. pillars are there for a reason. deal with it.

[chrion]

Thats wrong man.. Who the fuck would play a class / spec who gets killed by every dps class!? FAIL!
And think about battlegrounds.. If someone gets to you, you would die 99% of the time!? FAILFAILFAIL!

because you should have a team to heal and to protect you

[chrion]

just another facerolling rogue who can't get a decent healer down, move along now.

im not a rogue, and our team is good, 2250-2300 average, not amazing but solid. Anyway thats not at all what this is about

[Auria]

we can kill them, its just that with certain comps (and not just for my team for alot of teams) you lose to players that arent as good as there rating shows, and they can get cheese wins off of better teams because they make these comps on purpose, for the sole reason that its easy mode, there isnt much to it except pick a target and spam everything you have on it.

sorry but pillars etc (ALSO HEALERS) are there for a reason..
and if ppl pick up 2 healers and a BM hunter or another DPS class.
they are just SMART!
"every comp has a counter comp (©Hydra)"
so just fix ur COMP to be a counter COMP on the Cheesy comps

[Ragnadriel]

Because if it was that way healers would be free food in world pvp as well, and i don't give a f*** if it annoys you in arena, but i ain't gonna be nobody's bitch just cause i like to heal.

[Deleted]

To all the "L2Play" sayers, try to kill an equally geared and skilled resto druid. It's not going to happen unless he does terrible, terrible mistakes.

[ValarOne]

Well, Resto druids is OP.. I agree on that.