Fotm doesn't mean it's overpowered to the point where you'd never lose >.>
It just means due to certain events/changes, a class/comp that was rarely seen before now has a huge influx of players running it. Think Beast cleave.
Fotm doesn't mean it's overpowered to the point where you'd never lose >.>
It just means due to certain events/changes, a class/comp that was rarely seen before now has a huge influx of players running it. Think Beast cleave.
Despite changes, RMP isn't the "best" team. It's just strong, and has a lot going for it even with the fear/blind nerf. Meh, I run RKP myself, and it's a little weird, but start of the season and not having any real problems yet.
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This is an interesting point, back in classic priests were the number one healers, they healed the tank and it was seen as an important role. With Holy being stereotyped as a raid healers only it annoyed a lot of holy priests who wanted to do some tank healing. So with that in mind going disc gives them the ability to tank heal and do what is perhaps concieved as a more important role.Originally Posted by Zeuq
Been a priest since BC. Was Holy back in the day - these days I roll Shadow and leaving healing to the truly passionate about healing. Whenever I was asked to heal when wrath came out, I always went Discipline - I just thought it was a really nice change in style from Holy. But then they made some changes to Holy that made me really start to enjoy it. I'm still a Shadow priest at heart - hell, if you look me up in armory, I currently have 2 shadow specs - I've never had to heal for a raid. So I've started utilizing my dual spec for alternate shadow specs for Hard Mode fights. Any time I have to heal it's only for Heroics.
However - I've noticed a distinct lack of priests here on Exodar. A sizely portion of priests I've seen have come and gone - a lot of them have been truly terrible no matter what spec. For instance, there's only a few notable Shadow Priests on my server, horde-side. I will admit, though, that most of the time when I see a healing priest it's usually Discipline. Why? Here's my thoughts - Shamans are better raid healers, Paladins are better tank healers, but Disc is a very fast paced and almost as equally capable as a Holy Paladin. The play style is a bit different from most healers. Also, Discipline priests offer something no other healer really can - true prevention. They also bring great utility compared to Holy Priests.
So why are so many healing priests disc?
A) A different kind of healer
B) They're great in PvP
C) They were once Holy and when they made Disc they just wanted a different experience.
Personally - I've grown out of the disc thing. I like it, but most of the time I never get to utilize it. No matter what raid I'm in main tank healing is always left to either the Paladins or the Resto Shamans (which they do very nice after some recent changes). So I get better raid healing capacity as a Holy preist. And personally I really just feel Holy is more fun. That's just my opinion though.
Disc just rocks! ;D ;D
Can't say I agree here, Holy Priests are arguably the strongest raid healers right now. I'd say Resto Druids are definitely very close, you could even make a strong case to say that they are perhaps slightly ahead. I just believe the burst type nature of Holy makes them better in most encounters than druids but its very interpretational. Druids can MT heal a bit more effectively... but anyways.Originally Posted by Veyne
I'm not sure where Shaman are but I don't see them along the same power level as Priests and Druids.
You don't have to be OP to be FotM. Perhaps FotM isn't the right word, I was just noticing an increase in popularity.
Now, I think Priests are the most interesting healers out there, and I figure many people agree or have come to agree. You have a lot of tools and can do some amazing healing, limited mostly by your mana.
Discipline Priests don't have to be more effective than Paladins to be the most common healers, just more fun. And it should be obvious they're not underpowered, so that's not standing in their way.
Originally Posted by GrumpyJesterRMP has only been the most popular 3's comp ever in existance right? At least half the teams in most of the tournaments run RMP. Even in the days of DWL, RMP was still 2nd or 3rd most popular depending on the season. Its been realy popular forever.Originally Posted by Proletariat
FotM refers to somthing that IS too good and that will get lowered at some point. People know its too good so they /reroll or w/e to the comp/spec/class/race just becuase they want to easily be the best. Just like allot of people switched to at the start of WotLK when they saw how unbalanced they were. They are in a better spot right now and as you can see the population of active DK's went down. That is FotM and it always has to do with somthing that is unbalanced and where people know it is and those are the reason they play it.
If you havnt noticed RMP keeps getting buffed not nerfed.
When people say "pls" just because its shorter then "please", I feel totally justified to say "No" just because its shorter then "Yes".
Priests are preaty stable, at what they can do and how powerful they are ..
Thats other classes around beeing buffed and nerfed .. up and down.
With incoming ("soon") Prot healing nerf, people start to look for something to replace...
IMO there is no FOTM healer atm .. if you start looking who is most popular, or best at certain tasks, you might find one or other class is better .. but calling it FOTM is to soon.
About Holy in PvP ... it would be great with GS work. Sadly you can count on it like rogue on Vanish .. cool to have, might save the day .. but specing, and hoping each game it wont fail?
I couldnt agree more with you on that. I think all healers are in a realy great place right now and that it comes down to play style more then who is the more powerfull healer.Originally Posted by Daros
I have every healer except for a shamen at 80 and I love them all.
When people say "pls" just because its shorter then "please", I feel totally justified to say "No" just because its shorter then "Yes".
XDOriginally Posted by Kelandraa
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The FotM (rip thank god) is the Prot Paladins, but like you said, that's going to die. I don't really think there's a class that's anything near say S3 Druids, or something. I remember rerolling to a Druid early in S3 because in BG gear/Blues I was able to do substantially better than my Paladin who was already in mixed T6/S3 gear. Embarrassing.Originally Posted by Daros
Discipline rocks for Heroics healing... i mean i shield everyone up and keep that up the whole instance... tank maybe needs a penenace or so sometimes but thats it... i often end up on like 600k absorbed and 100k healed in heroics
also disc has some fun stuff like this
I chose a priest when I was lvling RAF with a friend. When I got to 60 I went disc solely because Penance is awesome!!!
Originally Posted by TwistedPower
I know in my realm - Eonar (US), there is a short supply of priests, especially Disc ones. Majority are either Holy or Shadow but most of the time, in PUGs, you would rarely find a priest for heals. Usually dominated by Holy Pallies, Trees or Resto-Shammies.
Hmmm, I've been doing some census shots on my server, and Priest is the 4th class in popularity.
Maybe it's a local problem then? To be honest, I don't see that many Priests on the cross-server BGs, just while leveling and in instances/arena's.
fotm? nowai. in pvp is the worst healer. i got a disco with 1079 resi and 26k hp self buffed. and get pwnd by 2 melees in 7 sec. and in 2v2 rogue hit u till 5k and then stun and stun, noway to overcome it. even with pain supretion ferals hit u for 4k. warrs 3k ms. tbh prefer to wear a shield and plate and got 25k armor... than a poor 40% reduction every 3 mins... and there is no cc, fear are miss 7/10 times, priest dont got any cc. cause droo got root-cyclone, and can shape to go away from hamstring and every other speed reduction. palas can just buble and stun u, and can't die by any melee, and shams can just go ghost wolf and run away ezly. disco are good for 2v2 and only if ur partner can save ur azz when hard time come... cause if u play 3v3 and ur partners miss a cc u are dead... in 3v3 everytime i get pwned first...
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ulon&n=Lunadia see my priest. and dont wanna any kiddo to start L2P and shit. i play prist before u even born....
and sorry for my sucky English.
This very much depends on the fight mechanics, CH is fantastic for a fight that has continuous raid damage - particularly if that damage is being applied unevenly. On the other hand if the entire raid is taking a spike simultaneously a disc priest can be the best raid healer - albeit with the limitation that you can't stack them. Fights like Hodir where you have periods of intense raid healing, interspersed with periods of calm favour holy priests.Originally Posted by Veyne
Saying that, resto shaman have had their scaling problems fixed - whereas disc's ability to raid shield won't scale well. I won't be surprised if disc raid shielding falls by the wayside in 3.3
I think with the xp changes priests have become a lot more enjoyable to level, especially being able to level through PvP. I know the prospect of leveling 1-80 on my priest almost stopped me from doing it.
Yesterday I joined a 25M VoA with 7 other priests.