Does anyone miss the hard quest chains with great rewards?

[Badkarma]

You know what i miss? when pve was actually difficult. When there was only 2-3 guilds full clear everything now every other retarded guild is full clear everything

Which means everyone gets to enjoy the game. Do you not see a standstill at a boss as a reason for people to just not raid? I played since day 1 of Vanilla wow, and I very much like the change of raids. People also don't have enough time to stick around, so that's where change came.

Just because you don't like change, doesn't mean everyone else agrees. I actually have time to actually do shit offgame now.

[Badkarma]

No those other guild should be not retarded and get smart and get up to that content instead of making it so easy the game is a joke

Because we all know guilds trying back then and who haven't cleared were obviously retarded even though they were using the good strats.
Grow the fuck up, which apparently is the case when you say this game is a joke, yet you're talking about it and most likely still playing.

More like you're a joke.

[Adenspear]

I agree with Badkarma.

I think its become a mob mentality. WoW is easy.

I think its partially that the difficulty of raids has been lowered, player skill has improved vastly, and possibly gear is easier to obtain.

I don't think the game is good right now. Its aimed right at the majority of the players where it should be.

[Elvarg]

What's so boring about the hunter level 60 epic quests? :S

I remember doing them at level 60, they recruired effort to figure out how to take down the demons and even then it was tricky to execute. All of this led to an awesome bow, staff and a quiver, which was awesome at that time, not to mention the awesome feeling, much like taking down a new raid boss.

[Paulosio]

God I hate idiots....

Have you done the AQ quest ? elements of this was fun but it was such a friggin pain.
Have you done the Onyxia quest ? The reason it was removed due to the LARGE majorty complaining about it.
Have you done the Hunter weapon quest ? LOL is all I'll say....

get my point ? :P

They could have just changed the reward for the ony quest so that you can enter Onyxia's lair without completing it... but hey could have still left the quest chain in.

I did the hunter weapon quest at level 60 and it was some of the most fun I had in this game. Far better to truly earn a good item than just get it by luck from some random drop that everyone else has anyway.

[anubbus]

Personally i miss when raids where linear, assisted by quest chains. It would have been nice if you needed KTs head to get into uld, and at least kill all 4 watchers to get into TOC. the fact that scrubs can go and down beasts without stepping foot into uld or naxx is kinda lame.

[Adenspear]

No one would have gotten into Ulduar then because KT disintegrates when he dies. :P

[elcher]

The only quest in the entire game (excluding anything related to raids since I don't raid) that I can think off that I consider to be actually hard is the race against captain skyshatter at netherwing ledge.

that quest was so epic! i loved it!

[Gilian]

well then what the hell is the definition of a "hard quest chain"..
I mean a quest has to be soloable, or else you are doing a raid or achievement. If you meant those kind of quests then I guess the title should read "does anyone miss the hard GROUP QUESTS.."
and since it's soloable, what can be a hard quest?? the only way for a quest to be hard, is to take long and require patience, if by hard you mean you need gear in order to complete it, then get your tank and healer and do it in a group. SO quest chains that are long and take patience are the argent dawn qs.. I gave up on those, it takes you like 5 weeks of doing dailies every day to get some.. w/e you get like title or achievement or mount...

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"Anyway, those who played in classic and TBC probably remember the attunement, class quests, rep rewards or just raid chains that had epic rewards at the end."

If you don't know what he means then go to wowwiki and look it up. It isn't hard to understand what he means with his post and what he is asking. Maybe you just want to up your post count or you are just bitching about nothing.

ontopic: yes i miss them. Finishing the quest chain from SSC to attunement for MH and BT and up to killing illidan was awesome.

[thonga]

Would love to see some chains like the old ones, tho i disliked that not all classes had über quest like hunters =)

[Deleted]

To be honest, think the Karazhan attunement quest. How many people didn't get to go into Karazhan because they just couldn't complete the quest? None that I can think off.
The AQ questchain, the Onyxia questchain, both enormous chains, but brilliant to do. The people who disagree most likely wanted their Epics right away and didn't want to do some quests.

[KillaCrok]

I gotta agree. I miss the attunement quests the most. The class quests I could go either way on but the attunements I found fun. It made it feel more epic and that you were actually accomplishing something to complete the champ of naaru or hand of adal to be able to then go and do those raids. That you weren't just handed the key to the front door and told go head kill away. I've also found that most that didn't enjoy those attunements were ones who were in guilds who couldn't progress that far. Although I doubt you'll ever see something like them again. Casuals would go ballistic if they all the sudden had to complete hard modes or certain raids before they could be handed the next batch of epics.

[DonSnorrlione]

No one would have gotten into Ulduar then because KT disintegrates when he dies. :P

They could pick up his little orb then :P

[Winstan]

gave a good sense of accomplishment once you finished it

sorts out all the fotm rerollers from destroying your pug

[Zlodo]

To be honest, think the Karazhan attunement quest. How many people didn't get to go into Karazhan because they just couldn't complete the quest? None that I can think off.

Exactly. People confuse "time consuming" and "difficult".

[Sockpuppet]

nomnomnom, I miss Rhok'delar & Lok'delar, Benediction/Anathema, Pally/Warlock epic mount questchain and butthurt AQ opening quests. ^^

[KillaCrok]

Exactly. People confuse "time consuming" and "difficult".

Yea because blizz eventually removed the requirement to need the quest to go to kara. As they did with the champ of naaru for ssc/tk and hand of adal for hyjal/bt. People kept qqing and blizz made it so everyone could go and then nerfed the hell out of all the bosses to make it ez mode once u got in too. And that is where it all started.

[Nest]

Not really, tho I agree that having attunement to instances would be nice.

[power-akama]

The only one I did was Champion of the Naaru (attunement for SSC/TK) and it was a pain to find a strong enough tank and healer to survive the Hero Shattered Halls...then one day, we got a female gnome warrior in full T6 that roflstomped that, it was great.

Not sure those should be ''attunements'' anymore, but more of those quests that you need a 5 man group and that the fight or part of it is not a rolfstomp. People who wants to do it would be rewarded thru achievements, at least.

[Deleted]

With cataclysm, you will see the whole word changing around you through facing by doing quests. I believe that to be intresting quests that take you into the RPG feeling.

However if you it is about the chains like the paladin lvl 20 weapon (though now nerfed a bit); that took you into four instances; then yes I do miss them.

Also chains like the one around scyte of elune, starting in Ashenvale, pushing you all the way through duskwood via ratchet and booty bay, are something I missed. Though blizzard already indicated that they wanted to get rid of these quests in which you had to travel around the world. I pity in my honest opinion, but hell what can I do about it?