Will of the Forsaken is not overpowered at all!

[Vongimi]

http://www.arenajunkies.com/rankings...e/Mage/Priest/

Click on the team names, look at the races of the 3 players, and cry. Cry so very hard if you are not undead... If you are undead? @#! you lol

[Balduvian]

Sad but true.

[Vongimi]

WHY did I have to roll a space goat?!!?! WHY!?!?!? Im retarded... Cant wait for race changes so atleast I can go part of the way to OP racial by going human.

[Dziukas]

I love being undead :-*

[Leios the Worstcase]

So we have a choice of beeing the total Retards who don't play undead OR we are the total Lamers because we do... well Thanks

Well Will of the forsakes is a skill that can be seen, you can tell "Woah he used Will" but a Troll Berserker is something that you don't see as clearly but it can be just as important as a Will. Ah who am I kidding my whose RMP is Undead and we all know why 8)

[telemain]

WHY did I have to roll a space goat?!!?! WHY!?!?!? Im retarded... Cant wait for race changes so atleast I can go part of the way to OP racial by going human.

there is NOTHING OP about the human racial. Everyone acts like you get a whole free trinket. YOU DON'T. You don't get the 100+ crit or haste or whatever that you'd still have when using a pvp trinket. It's mostly a nice convenience, and that's it.

[Dayon]

The Human Racial is completely OP.

Back in the day, the PvP trinket was nothing more than the effect of "Every Man For Himself". Freed you from snares. Nothing more.

So, yes. You -do- have a free trinket just for being a human.

Will of the Forsaken gets you out of Fears and Charms.

Escape Artist gets you out of Snares.

Every Man For Himself does both, and also Stuns.

It's O-Fucking-P.

[Vongimi]

So we have a choice of beeing the total Retards who don't play undead OR we are the total Lamers because we do... well Thanks

Well Will of the forsakes is a skill that can be seen, you can tell "Woah he used Will" but a Troll Berserker is something that you don't see as clearly but it can be just as important as a Will. Ah who am I kidding my whose RMP is Undead and we all know why 8)

Lol <3

And about the 2 above me, Dayon, its not as OP as will of the forsaken thats for sure. Will of the forsaken has the bonus that it does NOT share a CD with your pvp trinket. Thats why its so powerful. But Everyman for himself, it doesnt give you a full extra trinket. It gives you a full extra trinket onuse/proc effect. So like instead of the Spell power WG trinket, you can use Solace on the Undeafeated if you were human. Im a space goat, so if I switched over to human, I would lose gift of the fail (totally gonna cry myself to sleep over that... oh wait...), but I would gain 39 spell power in switching from the 111 sp CC break trinket to Solace of the Undeafeated, PLUS I would gain the 16 mp5 stacking up to 8 times (128 effective mp5). So im losing gift of the fail for 39 spell power and 128 mp5.... ya its pretty insanely overpowered Not as much as UD racial though.

Just to put it in perspective... That gain in stats is equal to having taken an empty profession slot and leveling up a crafting proffession for the stat bonuses.... 21 times!

[Vonlego]

^ that is my brother. He asked for me to clarify and state that is is 21 dragon's eye gems, so 7 times the benefit of a profession.

[Leios the Worstcase]

^ that is my brother. He asked for me to clarify and state that is is 21 dragon's eye gems, so 7 times the benefit of a profession.

Thank you very very very much, and Pleas remember that he has those Boni ALL THE TIME, but I am also very happy about Will on a Team without a WL, Warri or Priest.... Oh wait what ???

It is totaly OP when it is used against you but when I don't need wo break a Fear because there is non my Race get's completly worthless so yes i would actualy say it is "balanced", OP if usable, Worthless if there is no Fear

[Schizoid]

Cataclysm will change your racials though.

[bigblack23]

The Human Racial is completely OP.

Back in the day, the PvP trinket was nothing more than the effect of "Every Man For Himself". Freed you from snares. Nothing more.

So, yes. You -do- have a free trinket just for being a human.

Will of the Forsaken gets you out of Fears and Charms.

Escape Artist gets you out of Snares.

Every Man For Himself does both, and also Stuns.

It's O-Fucking-P.

WoTF = 2 ways to break fear as standard
Every man for himself = 1 way to break fear as standard (since it shares cd with trinket)

Last time i checked, 2 was greater than 1.

You fail for being a dumbtard.

[fattyboomkin]

imagine an Undead paladin.

[crayven]

WHY did I have to roll a space goat?!!?! WHY!?!?!? Im retarded... Cant wait for race changes so atleast I can go part of the way to OP racial by going human.

if you reroll for racials then you ARE retarded...i doarena as spacegoat hunter very well thank you.

[Dubroya]

Sad but true.

[Kaeskalol]

WotF is more favorable to certain classes than others., Dayo-mayo.

UD warriors don't get nearly the same benefit, because of Berzerker Rage. That's about it; rogues love it, mages love it, priests love it, hunters will love it, DKs love it... It lets those classes stick to their targets on classes that can fear them.

EmfH is VERY powerful, but not nearly as powerful. For a human warrior, it's batshit crazy. Battlemaster's+ Greatness/Death's Embrace? Yeah, they hit fucking hard. Good for other classes- say, a mage. Spellhaste trinket and Battlemaster's. Every Man is powerful, but WotF is, hands down, the better racial in PvP.

Only Human racial I think is OP is Perception, even in its nerfed state.

Also, spacegoat racial hit is good in PvP, but less useful for healers.

[Abramis]

The Human Racial is completely OP.

Back in the day, the PvP trinket was nothing more than the effect of "Every Man For Himself". Freed you from snares. Nothing more.

So, yes. You -do- have a free trinket just for being a human.

Will of the Forsaken gets you out of Fears and Charms.

Escape Artist gets you out of Snares.

Every Man For Himself does both, and also Stuns.

It's O-Fucking-P.

Your a total retard....

The human racial shares the same cooldown with pvp trinkets, so essentially in PVP they actually have less "utility" than another class. An undead can use a trinket, and then a racial to escape fear twice.

A human can only use his racial once, and no trinket, since they share a cooldown.

With the introduction of wintergrasp trinkets (attack power/spell power and a "trinket" embedded) ANY class can get some damage stats, and a trinket to escape control spells at the same time.

The fact that a human can equip another PVE trinket is NOT worth the added stats (if compared to horde racials) To have an AOE silence, a trinket, and some attack power is FAR FAR FAR better than a trinket, and a few more attack power (aka human situation).

Im human, and soon I will likely be blood elf, for the must o-effing-op racial in the game, aoe silence mofos.

[Lycanthro]

Wow... what is it 2005? I thought we were long past complaining about Will of the Forsaken.

[Leios the Worstcase]

Your a total retard....

The human racial shares the same cooldown with pvp trinkets, so essentially in PVP they actually have less "utility" than another class. An undead can use a trinket, and then a racial to escape fear twice.

A human can only use his racial once, and no trinket, since they share a cooldown.

With the introduction of wintergrasp trinkets (attack power/spell power and a "trinket" embedded) ANY class can get some damage stats, and a trinket to escape control spells at the same time.

The fact that a human can equip another PVE trinket is NOT worth the added stats (if compared to horde racials) To have an AOE silence, a trinket, and some attack power is FAR FAR FAR better than a trinket, and a few more attack power (aka human situation).

Im human, and soon I will likely be blood elf, for the must o-effing-op racial in the game, aoe silence mofos.

Now I won't call you you a retard, maily because only retards would say something like that.... But i will try to tell you a little something

Will of the forsaken is a Wonderfull skill against any Class with a Fear, and it will make a win against that class so much easier... But what i would like you to think about is the degree of usefullnes of Will in fights against Druids, DKs, Hunters, Shamans, Mages and Rogues that like what? 6/10 Classes? Dear God that is Totaly game Breaking...

You have that extra trinket slot ALWAYS you have a Trinket from Lv1 on and don't tell me the extra Trinket slot is not OP because I would kill for a 3rd Trinket slot against those other Classes...

So what I generaly say is, don't forget that no matter how Powerfull Will might seen there are downsides to it!

[Devenu]

They're redoing all the racials in a couple of months anyway. Everyone feel free to get worked up over this though.