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    SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    Not taking into consideration pets that bring buffs or debuffs that assist the raid or group.... are there any pets that that compete enough with the wolf's ap buff to his master that would justify bringing it instead of the wolf?

  2. #2

    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    Maybe, MAYBE a wasp if you didnt have a single druid in the raid? Otherwise no.
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  3. #3

    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    How close would a raptor or cat be?

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    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elmer Fudd
    How close would a raptor or cat be?
    I think that the cat has higher pet dps, but the wolf buffs your dps with a stacking 10% ap buff hence its superiority.

  5. #5

    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    I've heard people talking about cunning pets like dragonhawks and windserpents. Any thoughts guys?

  6. #6

    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    Cunning may be the way to go next patch but I'm not sure.

    I used my Wolf before they were cool, I'll probably stick with it.
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  7. #7

    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    WOLF OR DIE MOFO

    /P Diddy

  8. #8

    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by blackedout
    I think that the cat has higher pet dps, but the wolf buffs your dps with a stacking 10% ap buff hence its superiority.
    Well the cat has the same 10% ap buff, but not the straight AP buff that the wolf has. So cat does more dps then the wolf, but with the wolf you will do a higher combined (hunter+pet) dps.

    Cunning pets wont be any good DPS wise, they are nice because of roar of recovery, but if you have Judgement of Wisdom up on the boss you dont have mana issues anyways.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H3-N9zoI5c Amazing video of 60+ devilsaurs raiding Undercity!


    My God, what a horrible creation. People seeing what they want? Thank God they tried to shy away from that. I know it pisses me off when I'm in an heroic raid, yet in the back of my head all I can think is 'some casual player is playing a heroic dungeon and not wiping.' -Vodkarn

  9. #9

    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dald
    Cunning may be the way to go next patch but I'm not sure.
    Source?

  10. #10

    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elmer Fudd
    Source?
    Due to the changes in Wolverine Bite, but it still won't matter since Furious Howl is just such a great boost for the Hunter (shows as 180 DPS for me and about 40 for my pet per Shandara's 92a).

    So basically, any pet needs to be about 200 DPS more than a Wolf is to be worth taking over a Wolf.
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  11. #11

    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    I very strongly doubt the improvements to wolverine bite are enough to make up losing:
    - call of the wild
    - furious howl
    - spider's bite
    - rabid
    - shark attack (instead of wild hunt)

    by switching from a ferocity wolf to a cunning pet.

  12. #12

    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    No, probably not.

    The problem with Cunning pets is that they "turn on" when the boss is below 35%. However, that's the shortest part of the fight - at that point, your raid (usually) is blowing cooldowns, Executes are coming online, and the like.
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  13. #13

    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    Yeah, it seems as if Cunning Pets damage is being buffed to help the hunter with what he or she probably chooses the cunning pet in the 1st place for: PVP.

  14. #14

    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elmer Fudd
    Yeah, it seems as if Cunning Pets damage is being buffed to help the hunter with what he or she probably chooses the cunning pet in the 1st place for: PVP.
    Except almost all hunters play with crabs now for the double stun.

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    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    I've always used the Winterspring cat. The other hunters always bring a wolf pet, but I still always beat them.

    One of the hunters has a few better pieces of gear then be, but I always beat him by a good 500-1k dps. So is it really worth getting a wolf?

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    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    The obvious point would be that you'd probably beat him by more if you brought a wolf too. Whether that's worth it to you or not is a question best left to you (and your raid leader).

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    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by just.jake
    I've always used the Winterspring cat. The other hunters always bring a wolf pet, but I still always beat them.

    One of the hunters has a few better pieces of gear then be, but I always beat him by a good 500-1k dps. So is it really worth getting a wolf?
    You're just better than them. If you had a wolf, you'd be slightly more better than you are right now.
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  18. #18

    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elmer Fudd
    Not taking into consideration pets that bring buffs or debuffs that assist the raid or group.... are there any pets that that compete enough with the wolf's ap buff to his master that would justify bringing it instead of the wolf?
    Wolf best at buffing the Hunter with two AP Buffs, "Furious Howl" and "Call of the Wild". A cat or devilsaur will do more damage then a wolf but you won't be using a devilsaur and it's more important for you to do more damage then to have a pet who has more damage. In a raid other pet abilites like a stun or disarm aren't going to work against bosses.
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  19. #19

    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    Wolf is the strongest pet for all spec.

    Even for BM, it's almost equal to devilsaur and devilsaur is a pain cause of it's size... so wolf might even be 'better' yet.

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    Re: SV Pet choice - Wolf or die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shamb
    Wolf is the strongest pet for all spec.

    Even for BM, it's almost equal to devilsaur and devilsaur is a pain cause of it's size... so wolf might even be 'better' yet.
    Devilsaur rocks the wolf pretty hard for BM, not gonna lie.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H3-N9zoI5c Amazing video of 60+ devilsaurs raiding Undercity!


    My God, what a horrible creation. People seeing what they want? Thank God they tried to shy away from that. I know it pisses me off when I'm in an heroic raid, yet in the back of my head all I can think is 'some casual player is playing a heroic dungeon and not wiping.' -Vodkarn

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