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    Trouble pulling over 4k DPS

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ul&n=clockedyo
    Note: this is an alt, recently started gearing it.. chest peice is terrible along with the cloak and valorous legs
    The thing is i see DK's less geared then me pulling more dps..
    My primary dps spec is blood - 4509 AP self buffed 26.51% crit chance 268 hit rating~ in 25man raids i manage to pull 3-3.8k DPS maximum with a standard rotation of : PS>IT>DS>HS>HS>HS>RDUMP>PEST (repeat with some variations including hysteria dancing rune empower blood tap etc)
    I'm also considering changing specs from blood to unholy but in my opinion blood>unholy until 3.2.
    Any corrections in spec rotation gems/gear etc would be appreciated. Thanks

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    Re: Trouble pulling over 4k DPS

    maybe go it>ps> ds>hs> hs>dc>dc>ds>hs>hs>hs>hs>dc>dc start over

    yeah you will have unlimited rp but death coil doesnt hit for enough to be worth the gcd

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    Re: Trouble pulling over 4k DPS

    for Unholy u need 4p t9 set bonus to pull good dps. Also for Blood is important to be exp/hit caped.

    Get rind of that pvp gear and gem them proper (why i saw res gem on chest and missing ench on back) Gem only with STR gems and use 1 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=49110 and 1 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40142 to get the meta bonus - put them proper to get the item bonus

    Use http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47673 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45254 if u dont have emblems. Awareness is for frost only.

    also missing head ench and wrong meta - use 21agil + 3%crit incr

    use http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45804 instead of Disease one and why u put 2 points in Night of the dead?

    that is from me i hope i helped with the gear ;D

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    Re: Trouble pulling over 4k DPS

    Its been a while since I've been Blood Spec but I do pull 8k on single target non gimmick fights as UH.

    Anyway is GoD the glyph to have? I though Dark Death glyph was better.

    Necrosis is a much greater dps gain that NotD since as blood you rely little on the pet and the dmg it does is almost insignifigcant.

    Arp, you need more of it. Blood relies heavily on physical dmg. The more Arp the better. Try and get the trinket from reg ToC because it will do you much more good as blood than Mirror.

    Lastly, I think anyway you are abyssmaly low on expertise. Exp cap is 26, you're at 10.


    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...h&n=Tarquinius

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    Re: Trouble pulling over 4k DPS

    Quote Originally Posted by clocked
    I'm also considering changing specs from blood to unholy but in my opinion blood>unholy until 3.2.
    We're currently on Patch 3.2.2. :P

    I'd say that with your Armor Pen, Unholy would be the way to go unless you have gear with more of it.

    But! If you decide to stay Blood...

    Optimal Blood DPS spec w/ Glyphs.
    http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMV...Zfzhhxc:IpGMmV

    Rotation:
    IT-PS-HS-HS-DS -DUMP- DS-HS-HS-HS-HS -Dump- (restart)


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    Re: Trouble pulling over 4k DPS

    Quote Originally Posted by clocked
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ul&n=clockedyo
    Note: this is an alt, recently started gearing it.. chest peice is terrible along with the cloak and valorous legs
    The thing is i see DK's less geared then me pulling more dps..
    My primary dps spec is blood - 4509 AP self buffed 26.51% crit chance 268 hit rating~ in 25man raids i manage to pull 3-3.8k DPS maximum with a standard rotation of : PS>IT>DS>HS>HS>HS>RDUMP>PEST (repeat with some variations including hysteria dancing rune empower blood tap etc)
    I'm also considering changing specs from blood to unholy but in my opinion blood>unholy until 3.2.
    Any corrections in spec rotation gems/gear etc would be appreciated. Thanks
    http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45804 is more viable for rpdump but what about refreshing diseases and having more global cooldown while putting ps/it back up?
    also bought the 200str sigil should be helpful. Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Drakuru
    maybe go it>ps> ds>hs> hs>dc>dc>ds>hs>hs>hs>hs>dc>dc start over

    yeah you will have unlimited rp but death coil doesnt hit for enough to be worth the gcd
    with that rotation you do not have enough rp to double death coil.. 2 death coils is an rpdump for me anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by wanax
    Its been a while since I've been Blood Spec but I do pull 8k on single target non gimmick fights as UH.

    Anyway is GoD the glyph to have? I though Dark Death glyph was better.

    Necrosis is a much greater dps gain that NotD since as blood you rely little on the pet and the dmg it does is almost insignifigcant.

    Arp, you need more of it. Blood relies heavily on physical dmg. The more Arp the better. Try and get the trinket from reg ToC because it will do you much more good as blood than Mirror.

    Lastly, I think anyway you are abyssmaly low on expertise. Exp cap is 26, you're at 10.


    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...h&n=Tarquinius
    i have the trinket from n toc i usually have it on was just seeing what the difference between the 2 we're.. it puts me close to the exp cap*

    Quote Originally Posted by Telric
    We're currently on Patch 3.2.2. :P

    I'd say that with your Armor Pen, Unholy would be the way to go unless you have gear with more of it.

    But! If you decide to stay Blood...

    Optimal Blood DPS spec w/ Glyphs.
    http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMV...Zfzhhxc:IpGMmV

    Rotation:
    IT-PS-HS-HS-DS -DUMP- DS-HS-HS-HS-HS -Dump- (restart)

    can i ask why you death strike as a 5th move.. i find it a good dps boost right at the start if you crit and then continue your rotation from it
    i will try unholy later on i find blood better though!
    and yea my bad 3.3*** haha

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    Re: Trouble pulling over 4k DPS

    Ow sorry I always replace that first DC with horn of winter :P
    IT-PS-HS-HS-DS -DUMP- DS-HS-HS-HS-HS -Dump
    doesnt work cause you're ds won't create death runes for DS-HS-HS-HS-HS fast enough.

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    Re: Trouble pulling over 4k DPS

    alright thanks i'll give it a shot

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    Re: Trouble pulling over 4k DPS

    Quote Originally Posted by clocked
    can i ask why you death strike as a 5th move.. i find it a good dps boost right at the start if you crit and then continue your rotation from it
    i will try unholy later on i find blood better though!
    and yea my bad 3.3*** haha
    You Death Strike as a 5th move because you will have built up RP, which will increase the damage it does. There is a rotation that uses DS first to get that buff up, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you're the only person in a raid supplying that buff.

    That rotation is:

    DS-IT-PS-HS-HS-DC-HS-HS-DS-HS-HS

    Then you'll return to the regular rotation

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    Re: Trouble pulling over 4k DPS

    Ok i managed to pull 3.5k on the heroic dummy self buffed.. thats a decent up from around 3000-3100 that i used to pull. raid buffed using a proper rotation i should hit 4k~ as i gear more it will be helpful too.

    If i was to use unholy as a dps spec, what would the optimal spec / glyphs be~ along with a rotation

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    Re: Trouble pulling over 4k DPS

    Quote Originally Posted by clocked
    Ok i managed to pull 3.5k on the heroic dummy self buffed.. thats a decent up from around 3000-3100 that i used to pull. raid buffed using a proper rotation i should hit 4k~ as i gear more it will be helpful too.

    If i was to use unholy as a dps spec, what would the optimal spec / glyphs be~ along with a rotation
    http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t72364-u..._3_just_dream/

    Lil ways down the page is where the current specs are.

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    Re: Trouble pulling over 4k DPS

    thanks to everyone who helped!

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    Re: Trouble pulling over 4k DPS

    Quote Originally Posted by Telric
    We're currently on Patch 3.2.2. :P

    I'd say that with your Armor Pen, Unholy would be the way to go unless you have gear with more of it.

    But! If you decide to stay Blood...

    Optimal Blood DPS spec w/ Glyphs.
    http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMV...Zfzhhxc:IpGMmV

    Rotation:
    IT-PS-HS-HS-DS -DUMP- DS-HS-HS-HS-HS -Dump- (restart)

    This^

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    Re: Trouble pulling over 4k DPS

    Quote Originally Posted by Telric
    You Death Strike as a 5th move because you will have built up RP, which will increase the damage it does. There is a rotation that uses DS first to get that buff up, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you're the only person in a raid supplying that buff.

    That rotation is:

    DS-IT-PS-HS-HS-DC-HS-HS-DS-HS-HS

    Then you'll return to the regular rotation
    This is the correct rotation since he has Sigil of Virulence.

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