Mage Spell Hit For Fire Spec?

[kyoharu]

Ok, I'm a little bit confused at the moment. According to Wowwiki, a Fire Mage should have 446, since they do not have the Precision Talent in frost (assuming the rest of your talents are in Arcane), and the Arcane talent Arcane Focus only effects Arcane spells, not fire. Though I'm being told by some in game to go with 368 Hit Rating. But wouldn't that put me under the hit cap, or is assuming that a druid with improved fairy fire or a Shadow Priest with Misery being in your raid actually a good bet? I know there was neither in my ToC 25 raid last night. So what hit rating should I really go for? Because if I can sacrafice a bunch of hit rating for Haste, I'm all for that. Thanks in advance.

[brirrspliff]

you should have +3% hit as support in your raid (moonkin/shadow). else your raid sucks and you indeed need 17% hit all by yourself.

[Mightymage]

As said, if you are raiding 25man without either a spriest or moonkin, you are really gimping your casters.

In 10man its not always possible, but carrying a few hit items or a trinket for that is what most people do.

[Herrbrun]

441 rating equals 17% sharp. You don't get anything from talents, only 3% from Faerie Fayah or Misery, and an additional 1% from Draenei if you're Alliance.

[Skarrd]

441 rating equals 17% sharp. You don't get anything from talents, only 3% from Faerie Fayah or Misery, and an additional 1% from Draenei if you're Alliance.

I was fairly certain 445.9 or so was the untalented unbuffed cap, but I could be mistaken as it's been a while since I've bothered with 10 man hit gear.

[Grisan]

A raiding fire mage has a soft hit-cap of 368 (horde) or 342 (alliance). This will give you the required 17% hit if all raidbuffs are present (shadow priest, moonkin, draenei).
In a 25-man raid these buffs should always be present. If they are not present your raid leader sucks and is a moron. These buffs are mandatory. Find yourself another raid, guild or raid leader.
In 10-man raids you will often find yourself without a moonkin or shadow. For that case you should be able to achieve the hitcap by swapping out one item (wands, rings, necklaces are good candidates) and hit buff food.

[Herrbrun]

I was fairly certain 445.9 or so was the untalented unbuffed cap, but I could be mistaken as it's been a while since I've bothered with 10 man hit gear.

Yeah I messed up. I had 341 which equaled 13.00%, which is what I needed

[Skarrd]

Yeah I messed up. I had 341 which equaled 13.00%, which is what I needed

wtb draenei racial on horde.

[TacTican]

WTB Draenei players who can GTFO the fire and not leave me under hit cap.

[Skarrd]

WTB Draenei players who can GTFO the fire and not leave me under hit cap.

oh god, suddenly i am now happy to not have draenei.

[Heywes]

wtb draenei racial on horde.

agreed, i still think thats the most powerful racial in the game.

[Milamber]

WTB Draenei players who can GTFO the fire and not leave me under hit cap.

Racechange to draenei like me.

[PvE_Mage]

exact hit rating aside, I found that if you're 1/2percent under hit cap then it's really not that dramatic... you'll miss like once in a raid-night.

[TacTican]

Racechange to draenei like me.

I should've rolled a Draenei. Even in 25-man raids, I always make sure my fire gear has a 17% hard cap at all times. Experience has taught me not to trust the boomers/shadowpriests/Draenei in my raid to stay alive.

[Skarrd]

exact hit rating aside, I found that if you're 1/2percent under hit cap then it's really not that dramatic... you'll miss like once in a raid-night.

I know what you're thinking, but hit always has the same benefit no matter how much you have as a mage. The only time adding haste is bad is when you start breaking the cap. For instance, icewalker on boots when people are over cap is something I see a lot. Hit isn't the be all end all stat that people seem to think it is. 20 hit rating is never better than 100 spellpower. Some people stress the cap too much like that, but hit is still a lot better than every stat below cap.

[Polarthief]

agreed, i still think thats the most powerful racial in the game.

or learn to play Arcane?

As an arcane mage, i only need 7% w/ a draenei and SP, 8% without Draenei, and 11% on my own. 11% is easily doable, as I'm at 11.7 and i'm not TRYING to get any!! >< WTS Hit Rating!

[Herrbrun]

I know what you're thinking, but hit always has the same benefit no matter how much you have as a mage. The only time adding haste is bad is when you start breaking the cap. For instance, icewalker on boots when people are over cap is something I see a lot. Hit isn't the be all end all stat that people seem to think it is. 20 hit rating is never better than 100 spellpower. Some people stress the cap too much like that, but hit is still a lot better than every stat below cap.

Where can I get a 100 SP gem?!

[Loklar]

Where can I get a 100 SP gem?!

Drops from Hogger.

The problem with Arcane Mages is that no Warlock ever brings 5% Crit. So I'm a fire mage, and I gimp my DPS all the time because out of 25 ppl, I'm the only guy who can scorch the boss down.

Unglyphed Scorch too :/