Fury Vs Arms warriors.

[sabrelime]

I can't seem to find anything about the dps differences between Fury and arms warriors epically on single target fights where fury can't hit multiple mobs at once with cleave/WW.

[chaddlock]

http://www.wowmeteronline.com/

Look @ the single target fights.

EDIT: Fury

[sabrelime]

About all of ToC is dominated by Fury because almost every fight involves something that can be hit other then the boss. I was just curious to know if on a single target fight with just the boss if arms and fury are similar.

[XFuzzypeachX]

there is an easy way to find out which one would be more useful for u and the raid as a whole.
IS there a feral dps druid

YES go fury

No go arms

ps this is for 25s in 10 always fury

[sabrelime]

We do have a feral druid but for the next patch since mutilate is getting a huge buff to dps in the amount of almost 2k most rogues won't be combat so we lose the 4 percent damage buff, so I wondered if fury and arms were similar but ToC had just made fury overly good.

[XFuzzypeachX]

I would go fury in this case then

[ProteinOrcWarrior]

I play arms, got sick of Fury in 3.0

Managed to out DPS the fury warrior on all fights but Twins. Granted my gear was slightly better.

[quez]

Fury outperforms arms at all times except possibly at low gear levels.

[Krouton]

there is an easy way to find out which one would be more useful for u and the raid as a whole.
IS there a feral dps druid

YES go fury

No go arms

ps this is for 25s in 10 always fury

That doesn't even make sense, why would you choose 30% bleed damage (and 4% physical damage increase if you don't have a combat rogue somehow) over 5% crit chance? The bleed damage increase only affects certain specs of hunters, other warriors, rogues that haven't switch to an ArP eviscerate build and feral druids (but considering in your example there aren't any, they can be removed from the list).

[Boyiee]

When is it safe to make the switch to Fury?

Currently Arms using Fordragon Blades (ilv232, 232dps). What iLvl and/or dps on both weapons would be considered viable to switch from the fordragon blades to fury?

Also, my Rawr doesn't seem to understand fury at all, should I be using the other spreadsheet on EJ for Fury?

[BaddyMcBad]

When is it safe to make the switch to Fury?

Currently Arms using Fordragon Blades (ilv232, 232dps). What iLvl and/or dps on both weapons would be considered viable to switch from the fordragon blades to fury?

Also, my Rawr doesn't seem to understand fury at all, should I be using the other spreadsheet on EJ for Fury?

Spreadsheet is ages better then RAWR.
Do not use RAWR.

[Boyiee]

Too bad I have Open Office.

[warriorsrule]

A fully 245 geared fury warrior will do around 500 more dps single target than an arms warrior. I belive in a 25man raid its around 7700dps for fury 7200dps arms.

[bigkaydoh]

arms can't touch Fury,specially not in totc, and specially anub

if they're equally geared that is

[Boyiee]

So now that I'm using the other spreadsheet...

It still says arms is better than Fury, even if I throw in weapons I don't have.

When is it safe to judge switching to fury... I'm currently using a 232dps polearm, if I put a 255MH 232OH it still says arms is higher which I don't see possible... What dps on MH/OH would actually out-do the polearm? Would 2x 232's? A 255 and any OH?

[BlackWaltzEOSK]

I was arms for a while and i prefer Fury over it, im not that great of geared but even in most raids where there are other warriors, fury and arms i tend to do a little better, granted this is a pug. I think ill always stay fury

[Boyiee]

I'm mainly looking for when it starts to outperform it, currently all I do is pugs and I'm running mostly 232's and a couple 245's. Maybe not necessarily outperform, but since I'm doing pugs mostly, I'd like it to at least do comparable dps and trying to find out which weapons it will take to do similar dps to my fordragons blades.

[quez]

So now that I'm using the other spreadsheet...

It still says arms is better than Fury, even if I throw in weapons I don't have.

When is it safe to judge switching to fury... I'm currently using a 232dps polearm, if I put a 255MH 232OH it still says arms is higher which I don't see possible... What dps on MH/OH would actually out-do the polearm? Would 2x 232's? A 255 and any OH?

checked the caps? Fury needs more expertise rating then arms for starters, and needs about 100 less hit rating.

[deathbomb]

There are reasons why people hate Rawr but is rarely Rawr's fault.
1. They don't know how to use it correctly.
2. They have never used it.
3. They don't use it in conjunction with a speadsheet, which the author said himself that Rawr was never meant to replace spreadsheets such as Landsoul's.

I use Rawr, I find it pretty accurate, so accurate that I rarely NEED to use a spreadsheet. I wouldnt consider spreadsheets "ages" better...maybe "slightly"

[Pieterman]

fury is easy to play but only causes high damage if u have the gear for it.
arms is awesome.