Warrior isn't so faceroll after all?

[mackmustard]

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[gringo]

If you have trouble holding aoe aggro in 5mans, try speccing into imp cleave and use http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=57154
Then just spam thunder clap whenever it is off cd and keep cleave up. Use Shockwave for additional aoe threat.
I must say it is more fun than tanking with my dk, i just love in combat charge^^

[Hakto]

Sounds more like you're just insecure or something, missing a thunderclap isn't gonna wipe a dungeon.

If anything just play your warrior like you would your druid, they are similar in many ways more so than the other tanks anyway.

Lacerate > Devastate
Swipe -> Cleave

And so on, don't make it harder than it is.

not true - swipe hits all nearby targets - cleave hits 2 or 3 if glyphed.

That's what makes thunder clap and shockwave important for holding threat, damage shield is the best aoe threat for warriors, it is passive - just needs the mobs hitting on you, for 5 mans shield block is win.

[Bloodcore]

Charge > Thunderclap > Shockwave if everything is hit > Shieldslam/Revenge/Devastate-tabbing

Wheres the problem?

[keipasha]

At this point of the expansion most dps have strong dps. I guess your problem is not single target but aoe.

Warrior is certainly weaker than other tanks y aoe threat, for 5man instances you really dont need too much defense with the gear availaible you can have around 520-530 defense using some good dps pieces, you will boost your ap and consequently your aoe threat.

Taken into account healers are also overgeared for 5man so they will have no problem in healing a bit harder, but your work will become easier.

I normally do 1-1'5k dps as tank, with mixed gear i do 2'5-3k, and doing de random daily its much easier like this.

Hope it helps.

[gringo]

not true - swipe hits all nearby targets - cleave hits 2 or 3 if glyphed.

Also cleave is on next swing while swipe is instant. druid tanking is easymode, warrior not so much.

[Renoxis]

didn't have a problem going from my rogue to warrior at all. then again thats rogue > warrior. both melee only classes.and i tanked abunch while i was leveling so i kinda knew what i was doing.

[Borakh]

It takes a bit longer to get into the rythm of warrior tanking but it's also more fun. WOOOSHHH! ;D

But yeah, you have to keep your eyes on the screen instead of just pushing two buttons and watching TV. I like both my bear and my warrior but bear tanking is definitely easier, now that swipe is a real aoe effect.

[Thaurr]

One of the worst things for Warrior AoE tanking is the current Mob-positioning bug. Shockwave gives you load of AoE threat but it just sucks having to dance arround just to make sure your Shockwave hits more than 1 target. (Though in terms of avoidance this goes for all classes but not that much for AoE tanking).

[Tholl]

Do not forget also that Retal is a GREAT threat generator for larger groups of mobs.

With the right talents it has a low cd also, so you can use this all the time.

Just pop retal, switch back to D stance, heroic throw a caster, and charge into another caster/melee and watch them all take a bunch of hits before you even start cleave/tc spamming.

[vetz]

I run with my DPS gear in heroics with onehander and shield. Got alittle over 28k HP unbuffed and 420 defence. Still the healers don't complain (always inspect and ask them before I run ofc). Almost always win the DPS meter too, 4k DPS is np. Shockwave crits for 10k. When it crits on multiple targets the dmg is insane.

[thorenSSE]

If you're coming from a druid then yes, warrior tanking is a whole lot more difficult.
Nevertheless it's in my opinion 10 times the fun as well, cause you actually feel that you have always have the right tool for the right problem, whereas as druid you just fall asleep while spamming swipe and mangle (and ofc queue mauls but there are macros for that :P)

I usually just charge into packs.. TC once and then try to drag them around a bit so i get everyone of them into the Shockwave.
After that just tab trough the mobs, Devastate/Shield Slam and queue Cleave if you have the rage (which you should usually have if you tank 3-4 mobs).
Other than that TC if its on cooldown.

Some say marking is useless in 5mans but i still tend to mark at least 1 mob as skull for first kill. I got it keybound anyway so its not a big deal and it makes things a bit easier usually.
For instance in Forge of Souls on the bigger packs, i usually mark one of the adepts with skull, charge in and Shield Slam that mob once and then spellreflect while i tank the rest of the pack somewhere else, thats usually enough agro for DPS to nuke it down quickly and after that AOE the rest. Requires DPS to have at least half a brain tho.


Btw i'm playing druid since WoW EU launch, been tanking the majority of BC content and i still love playing him, but warrior tanking is just SO much more fun. Just takes a bit longer to master it

[Artaioz]

I don't ever remember reading a thread about warrior tanking being faceroll...

Lot's off abilities & buttons to mash being a warrior tank & I love it. Charge/Intercept/Warbringer is awesome.

If you're having issues rounding up mobs try to charge in (generates rage) & Thunderclap/Shockwave. Put points in Gag Order so you can use Heroic Throw to silence a pesky caster & bring them to you. Mark your first kill target with Skull to make is ezmode for your DPS. You can't assume they'll use assist. If you have a hunter in your group make sure to ask for misdirects (particularly if you have threat issues). To maximize your threat, make sure you hit the soft cap for Expertise (26) and have decent +Hit. Stacking +Block gear for Heroics is a great threat generator too.

[kinghong1970]

you might want to get some action bar mods so you have all 12 buttons out there, and all paged to your stances...
hence i'm a big fan of macaroon...

all 12 buttons within a finger's reach from my movement buttons...

[Luris]

It's not as easy as DK or Paladin, I'll grant you that.

While warrior doesn't have the same AOE tanking capabilities, you can manage with shockwave, thunderclap and cleave. Don't be afraid to ask the party to let you at least Tclap once, since some start attacking before you run or charge.

[ponth]

If you run a lot of heroics, glyph cleave and devestate, they're helpful. Practice getting shockwave to hit all mobs either by charging the middle one and hitting sw directly or doing
the charge->tc while jumpturning and sw them from behind. Try to tank in a position where tab targetting won't have you targetting the next pull or you might end up losing a cleave.
Tab cleave tab dev cleave tab ss cleave etc usually works if your dps are in an aoe mood. If you have a pack of mobs spread too wide to just charge->sw you've got a lot of tools
at your disposal. Charge a caster, shield slam it, shield block and tag a melee, intercept another if in suitable range, heroic throw another caster etc.
Warrior tanking is fun because you can't press two buttons and watch TV.

[Stixxz]

For multiple mobs in dungeons I use, Charge, Thunderclap, shockwave, then spam cleave and repeat thunderclap and use revenge/shield slam.

[Pieterman]

well duh>< warrior isnt easy to play, just cause we dont have that many buttons.
took me ages to find out the best rotation for arms.
same goes for protection
fury's quite easy to get the hang of tho, just getting HS done properly

[CaspianRoach]

Paladin tanking is much easier.
Whole bunch of I-WIN threat buttons on low cooldowns.

[thonga]

Warrior tanking is the only that need a bit of training/dedication, compared to the other 3 classes, but when you master it, you will love it..

Wins the fun factor over all, and yes, played all tanks in game, so i know ;D

Hope you enjoy it, and dont let Billy Critkid destroy your fun, cuz hes spoiled by other tank classes, and start aoe before you even charged in and gathered mobs =)

Might be my oldschool blood, but warriors are the true tank class in my world