Glyph of PW:S and crits

[RexItaliae]

Hi all!
I have 2 questions about Glyph of PW:S's crits. 1: Why it doesn't proc every time Divine Aegis? 2: If the glyph heal for 20% of the amount absorbed by PW:S, and that heal crits, the amount absorbed by PW:S should be higher then for that shield? Shouldn't infact never crit a heal that scale with an absorbion amount, that can't ideally crit (as far as I now)?

[Kelesti]

Umm, what? I can barely understand your post as it is, but I'll give it my best shot.

First, Glyph of Power Word: Shield is not a "Glyph of Barriers" or a "Glyph of Aegis", or even a "Glyph of Absorption Mechanics". It doesn't apply off of Divine Aegis, it shows up just from casting Power Word: Shield. Expecting it to is like expecting Penance to do more damage to a target with Glyph of Smite. It's just not going to happen, no matter how much you think it should, in your head.

Secondly. The Glyph of Power Word: Shield is a seperate heal. Absorbption mechanics can't crit. Period.This heal is 20% of your shield value, that is affected by your spell critical effect (Holy) chance for 1.5x the normal value.

The fact that this can crit is an added bonus, because hey I'll take a bigger heal any day. Now that it also triggers Divine Aegis (and Surge of Light I'm assuming if you did a weird hybrid that should be burned in the hells for eternity), its crits mean stronger absorption as well as the stronger heal on it.

As far as this:

Shouldn't infact never crit a heal that scale with an absorbion amount, that can't ideally crit (as far as I now)?

I can't understand that. If it's QQ, don't bother. They could take away the chance for a stronger heal and Divine Aegis, would that make you feel better? If, however, it's not QQ, feel free to reword that so that the rest of us can try to make sense of it?

[magicism]

Roll DK and you will never have this problem again.

[Deleted]

I think what he is trying to say is that when the heal from the glyph crits, why dosent the absorbtion from the shield go up with it?

Basically, you shield the person for a fixed amount. Thats it.
Then, they glyph kicks in and heals ther person for 20%. It is a completely separate thing in terms of healing and absorbtion. The onyl thing that the heal has to do with the shield is that its caused by it. Thats is the end of the synergy.

[Chob]

Actually, currently it seems bugged. Divine Aegis does not proc if your glyph of power:word shield crits on someone else, only if it crits on yourself. Not sure Blizzard is even aware of this yet.

[Pheonixis]

Actually, currently it seems bugged. Divine Aegis does not proc if your glyph of power:word shield crits on someone else, only if it crits on yourself. Not sure Blizzard is even aware of this yet.

Didn't I read about them fixing it not long ago? At least I know they're aware of it. Tough cookie to break maybe?

[Saradomon]

Actually, currently it seems bugged. Divine Aegis does not proc if your glyph of power:word shield crits on someone else, only if it crits on yourself. Not sure Blizzard is even aware of this yet.

I've had DA proc off of glyph crit on others many times.

[KresnikHellfire]

Mine's random - rarely procs of PWS crits, but occassionally does. Haven't really looked into when and were it crits.

But it's certainly not working as intended.

[Chob]

Mine's random - rarely procs of PWS crits, but occassionally does. Haven't really looked into when and were it crits.

But it's certainly not working as intended.

As I said previously, after testing it various times in raids in groups I found that DA only procs if the glyph crits on yourself, just never on others. I'm talking about many tests here, but if said above poster is sure about it proccing for him, perhaps it has to do with talents or previous talents or somesuch? Wouldn't be the first time priests had issues with that.

[RexItaliae]

As far as this: I can't understand that. If it's QQ, don't bother. They could take away the chance for a stronger heal and Divine Aegis, would that make you feel better? If, however, it's not QQ, feel free to reword that so that the rest of us can try to make sense of it?

Yes sorry, I meant what Abb said after me. However, now I have understood the Glyph mechanics. But I can see I am not the only priest which Glyph of PW:S, when they crit, don't proc Divine Aegis, if not when I am shielding myself (hoping this sentence has a sense, of course XD).
Thanks for the information!

[Saradomon]

If may be linked to talents, feel free to check out Glarecaster - Alleria, I have seen it proc on myself and others.

[KresnikHellfire]

Posted by Solitary-Ravenholt on the WoW-europe forums about this issue:

When 3.2 first came out they fixed this, and the result was a bug which meant any time somebody with a shield on them did something it assigned that spell to the priest.

As a result, Priests were getting aggro whenever tanks taunted (for example) and were doing 85% of the total raid damage (according to Recount etc).

My Arcane Blasts were particularly effective


As a result it was almost instantly hot fixed out and so this small bug has had to remain.

There's your answer, I believe.

[Tezmata]

I'm fairly new to priesthood and I've had a question that's been bugging me for a few days now. I figure this thread is a good place to ask it, since it's semi-related. I'm holy and when my Glyph of PW:S crits, I have yet to see SoL proc. Is it possible, or do I just have bad luck/bad observation skills?

[MushroomBomb]

I've seen DA proc on heals from the PW:S glyph. It's fun seeing two shields popping up at the same time

Posted by Solitary-Ravenholt on the WoW-europe forums about this issue:

There's your answer, I believe.

Did you even read the thread? This thread has nothing to do wit that, at all.

[KresnikHellfire]

Did you even read the thread? This thread has nothing to do wit that, at all.

1: Why it doesn't proc every time Divine Aegis?

Probably quoted the wrong part of the thread, but go read it:

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread....25285338&sid=1

Has pretty much everything to do with this thread. Thanks x x x

[Ironfoot]

I'm fairly new to priesthood and I've had a question that's been bugging me for a few days now. I figure this thread is a good place to ask it, since it's semi-related. I'm holy and when my Glyph of PW:S crits, I have yet to see SoL proc. Is it possible, or do I just have bad luck/bad observation skills?

It's been a while since I was a Holy Priest, but is Glyph of PW:S that beneficial for a Holy Priest? I would of thought that Circle of Healing, Prayer of Healing or Renew would of been more appropriate?

Unless you're specced into Soul Warding, but that would be a very weird spec indeed.

[Ynna]

I'm fairly new to priesthood and I've had a question that's been bugging me for a few days now. I figure this thread is a good place to ask it, since it's semi-related. I'm holy and when my Glyph of PW:S crits, I have yet to see SoL proc. Is it possible, or do I just have bad luck/bad observation skills?

SoL should proc on a Glyph of Power Word shield. I've had it happen before while leveling.

It's been a while since I was a Holy Priest, but is Glyph of PW:S that beneficial for a Holy Priest? I would of thought that Circle of Healing, Prayer of Healing or Renew would of been more appropriate?

Unless you're specced into Soul Warding, but that would be a very weird spec indeed.

It's not really, unless you're leveling and find yourself using PW:S a lot. Also, Circle of Healing only comes as soon as level 50, Prayer of Healing can take care of most damage in normal dungeons, so no point in glyphing it at lower levels and I can imagine the Glyph of Renew straining the mana of a lower level healer.
I used it while leveling with a Smite build: Shield myself, then if the PW:S glyph critted I could open with a Holy Fire followed by an instant Smite, which was quite fun.

[Ândrömèdâ]

(and Surge of Light I'm assuming if you did a weird hybrid that should be burned in the hells for eternity)

OMG thank you so much for making me loled so much^^ Brought some sunshine in my friezing afternoon ;D

[ebrandsberg]

Actually, currently it seems bugged. Divine Aegis does not proc if your glyph of power:word shield crits on someone else, only if it crits on yourself. Not sure Blizzard is even aware of this yet.

I reported it, as well as the bug they fixed that in fixing caused this problem.

In 3.2, it was using the TARGET's crit rate, and the CASTER's talents to determine what was going on.
Now, it is using the CASTER's crit rate, and the TARGET's talents to determine what should happen.

My guess is that if you crit with this heal on yourself, it can proc SoL if you are speced for it as it procs DA for disc priests.

They have had problems with PoM in a similar style, at one point in 3.2, it was using the target's crit rate, and when it did crit, it would put DA on the caster. They have very poor QA for something so basic. I wonder how many trinket effects are broken but just haven't been reported.

[Tezmata]

It's been a while since I was a Holy Priest, but is Glyph of PW:S that beneficial for a Holy Priest? I would of thought that Circle of Healing, Prayer of Healing or Renew would of been more appropriate?

Unless you're specced into Soul Warding, but that would be a very weird spec indeed.

I guess I should specify. By "new to priesthood" I mean "I have a low-level priest that I'm actively leveling." I just hit 50 last night, so my glyph options are limited and don't really matter much. :-\