Why SoTA is the worst BG

[shakeme]

50% of the time, I'm guaranteed to hate the game from the start (starting on defense), no matter what.

There are basically 5 things results you can get out of SoTA:

Start on offense, awesome team:
Attack quick, defend for equal time (6-12 ~ min total) 3 tokens
yay I don't have to be here for long and I won!

Start on defense, awesome team:
Defend for 10 minute, attack, win quickly (13-17 ~ min total) 3 tokens
This is probably my biggest issue. I love to PVP (world, arena, bg) and I seriously AFK any game where I start on defense. I know I shouldn't, I know its wrong and hurts the other people trying to gain honor / tokens, but I HATE defense first (I got stuck with it for a whole year as horde, thx blizz)

Start of offense, bad team:
Fail attack for entire duration, then lose quickly on defense (13-17 ~ min total) 1 token
This is similar time to the previous in time, but I am stay for the first half. If we lose, I just /afk. Again, same thing, its bad, but I already know the game is over at this point, and I don't need more tokens

Start on defense, bad team:
Defend for short period of time, fail to attack quicker (6-12 ~ min total) 1 token
At least I wasn't here for 20 minutes ...

Equal teams, defense/offense irrelevant:
Defend for 10 minutes, fail to attack for 10 minutes, any order. (20 minutes total) 1 token
I could be wrong, was always 1 token back in the day. Did they change this to 2 tokens like it should be? Always 4 tokens total are given out, this is the only way I know to have a total of only 2 tokens given out in any BG. A tie should be 2/2, at least you didn't lose ...

I hate this BG, its my lowest mark (at 72 I think). It's the only "1 sided bg" in the way I listed that I can think of. The only possible way I can think to improve this BG is to allow defense to shorten the time, similar to the southern towers in WG idea.

[Balance]

SoTA is just boring. At least Isle is fun.

[destructard]

all bgs except vanilla originals, and eots are the only fun ones now

[shakeme]

It's not an entertainment issue, its a "you start at a disadvantage 50% of the time" type issue.

[TheShinyOne]

Strand is annoying, and not fun at all. Even when I'm winning, I'm unhappy that I'm there. We need more like Basin and Gulch, they are the best there in my opinion.

[HiddenFear]

Strand is annoying, and not fun at all. Even when I'm winning, I'm unhappy that I'm there. We need more like Basin and Gulch, they are the best there in my opinion.

Couldn't agree with you more. Though I do like IoC quite a lot.

[romant]

the newer style of bg's aspire to the noobs that cant really pvp. You can do isle, and strand with minimal pvp combat. I really hate this.

Hell they changed Alterac valley to a bum rush which is the mst idiotic thing alive, and people complain about turtles in mid and so forth, which for me is a giant source for pvp and the most fun. '

As for stand i feel u as a fellow horde. i need one last acheivement in there (defend beach without losing wall) them im gtfo). Like i meantioned above no real pvp is needed to win, just some suicide bombers idiots firing turrets and smart tank drivers.

Hell i would be happy with a pit of blood bg with first factions to get 500 kills wins.

[roflpot]

I have to say I agree here, AB is by far my favourite battleground purely because it's all small group combat of varying sizes whilst actually fighting for reasonable objectives.

SOTA is an abortion of a battleground I don't actually know anybody who enjoys it.

[nalle]

Battlegrounds with any sort of vehicle is just pure shit. PvP is about playing your class against other classes, not your class against vehicles or the other way around, it completely destroys the purpose of pvp (in my opinion atleast).

[Unionoob]

I find Warsong Gulch best since its big field where you can fight, do objectives doesn't really have to defend anything and is pure fun since begining.. old AV which was going for 24-48h or more was fun either to just kill horde and have fun not much to gain honor, then they intreduced AB at begining it really felt as an unfinished zone just plain field with 5 buildings and 1 up and 1 down side nathing much but well its ok then they gave us EOTS WSG and AB mix which is just meh.. and now SToA which is.. wtf? Malygos? Oculus type BG? o snap... no thanks no more viechles please not Wintergrasp v2 just wondering why Blizzard can't make pure zone like WSG huge field like WSG or old AV type Battleground for 24/7 type fight just for more peeps and to make it still doing fn after 24 hours put inside dailys for some nice honor, exp, gold, hell put there some weekly quests for an gem but NO viechles please >.<

[olih27]

50% of the time, I'm guaranteed to hate the game from the start (starting on defense), no matter what.

I read no further, that sentence makes no sense what so ever, it's kinda like saying
"Whatever happens i might be guaranteed to hate SOTA"

[fylth]

there is just something about Strand that makes it boring for me too. i think its the fact that people are too stupid to realize its just: get in a tank> attack the wall> cap the GY> grab more tanks> attack more doors> ad nauseam. But if you get a good battle and people just hit the walls you can hammer though the allies in no time flat. but when people get a hard-on for chasing others down thats when it turns into a boring stalemate.. worse than playing dod_kalt lol now THAT is stalemate city

[MagnusWyvern]

They should just have a new twist on old favorites.

A new ctf, hold the node, etc. not trying desperately to do something new that doesn't really work.

[Teh Warlock]

i think the gates need a lot more health, but the offense gets a new veichle if they claim a workshop, and they should give us dogfights, bombing runs, and anti-air missile batteries, just like they promised in Wintergrasp

[Ave07]

I don't understand why SotA has 2 rounds. if you are on D and the other team can capture the portal they pretty much win since is there really a point on defending unless you want to make it a tie and still get 1 mark?

IMO there should only be one round and if you are ON D and can defend you should win and that should be the end of the game. Or if the O can get through your D you lose and they win. 2 rounds is just a waste of time and stupid.

[Dregu]

all bgs except vanilla originals, and eots are the only fun ones now

Couldn't agree more.

[shakkenbake]

I find Warsong Gulch best since its big field where you can fight, do objectives doesn't really have to defend anything and is pure fun since begining.. old AV which was going for 24-48h or more was fun either to just kill horde and have fun not much to gain honor, then they intreduced AB at begining it really felt as an unfinished zone just plain field with 5 buildings and 1 up and 1 down side nathing much but well its ok then they gave us EOTS WSG and AB mix which is just meh.. and now SToA which is.. wtf? Malygos? Oculus type BG? o snap... no thanks no more viechles please not Wintergrasp v2 just wondering why Blizzard can't make pure zone like WSG huge field like WSG or old AV type Battleground for 24/7 type fight just for more peeps and to make it still doing fn after 24 hours put inside dailys for some nice honor, exp, gold, hell put there some weekly quests for an gem but NO viechles please >.<

^ Didn't end any of his run on sentences with correct punctuation, I don't understand how people can even write like this or how i could even read eat. Trolling complete

[AnotherPaladin]

SoTA is a pretty bad bg unless your rolling with a pre-made. Then it can be enjoyable. I agree with the fact there needs to be a way to lessen the amount of time on defense like in WG.

[Ghoti Sticks]

Out of all the BGs, SotA is one of the better maps for combat uptime. Arguably WSG and EotS both have more combat, but it is close. That may not be reason enough to like SotA, but it counts for something.

Perhaps I am just somewhat disenfranchised with AB from the grind to exalted, but I prefer moving en masse into the enemy forces over standing around defending a node.

The change I would make to SotA:
Offensive team only has 4 minutes to get to the relic. For each of the four first walls the offensive team destroys (G,B,R,P), they receive one additional minute. If the yellow wall is destroyed, the offensive team receives two more minutes (Thus, defense has a way to shorten the game).

[Icpie]

SoTA is just boring. At least Isle is fun.

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