Was Arthas a Death Knight when he killed Terenas?

[Rusher]

Title says it all.
IMHO he wasn't yet , he was just controlled by the blade.

[Hexus]

He damn sure wasn't a paladin.

He had already willingly pledged his service to Ner'zhul, manifested necromantic powers and his hair and skin got that nice new "undead" sheen.
Case and point: http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=13395. This is a flashback, showing you how Arthas murdered and reanimated the soldiers who followed him to northrend.

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Just after killing his father, he went to the Balnir farmstead and raised Invincible, his one-time mount from the dead.

I think that should answer the question.

[Eats Compost]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was a Death Knight at that point.

.. Come to think of it, in the WC3 cinematic, I think his armor was already patterned with skulls and all that Death Knight jazz.

[Deleted]

He was. He turned Falric and Marwyn and raised Thassarian into Death Knights even before they got to Lordaeron.

[Keile]

That was the nail in the coffin so to speak. Once he did that his conversion to the dark side was complete.

"Something something something DARK SIDE.....something something something COMPLETE"

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was a Death Knight at that point.

.. Come to think of it, in the WC3 cinematic, I think his armor was already patterned with skulls and all that Death Knight jazz.

Yeah, his armor WAS pattered with skulls. But he wasn't quite a DK yet, he was just heavily corrupted but still technically alive.

If you replay WC3 this event takes place before the Undead Campaign, it was at the beginning of the Undead Campaign where he was finally a DK. This was just EMO ARTHAS.

[Deleted]

Yeah, his armor WAS pattered with skulls. But he wasn't quite a DK yet, he was just heavily corrupted but still technically alive.

If you replay WC3 this event takes place before the Undead Campaign, it was at the beginning of the Undead Campaign where he was finally a DK. This was just EMO ARTHAS.

He raised his bloody horse from the dead just after killing his father. I think that pretty much proves it that he was a Death Knight, unless he somehow learned the skills on the way to the Balnir farmstead.

Also, when he catches one of the rose petals they showered him with, it withers.

[Lance Omikron]

If you replay WC3 this event takes place before the Undead Campaign, it was at the beginning of the Undead Campaign where he was finally a DK. This was just EMO ARTHAS.

Didn't the undead campaign actually start a few hours, maybe a day or two after the events of the cinematic?

In any case, it's pretty well-documented that he was, indeed, a death knight at this point.

[Aldarc]

Title says it all.
IMHO he wasn't yet , he was just controlled by the blade.

Yes, because he killed and raised his lieutenants Falric and Marwyn (seen below) as death knights as well.



And when you play as Arthas in the Matthias Lehner quest line, you are already a death knight when you kill and raise your troops who followed you to Northrend.

It is all pretty clear cut that Arthas was a death knight by this point.

[Fishman]

As stated before: Yes he was a DK at this point. Reasons: They have all been stated before.

[Unholyground]

Death Knights are not dead, they are in limbo between life and death, or they would all look like undead and be decaying and such.

[Draeth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adM-aRyYJxA
The cinematic in question.

He is most definitely a Death Knight. He's clearly dead already, and as was pointed out earlier, the men behind him are almost certainly Falric and Marwyn. Actually, the WoW 3.3 trailer explicitly states that one of the first souls Arthas claimed with Frostmourne as a Death Knight was King Terenas's right there.

And in response to the undead campaign question, yes, it begins immediately following this cinematic with Arthas just having raised Invincible. He has a little chat with Mal'Ganis and then destroys what's left of Lordaeron.

[Deleted]

Death Knights are not dead, they are in limbo between life and death, or they would all look like undead and be decaying and such.

Don't know about yours, but my Azraella was killed and raised.

And they do look decaying if you choose the Death Knight specific skins.

The only ones who never died were Arthas and some of the second generation of Death Knights. I'm pretty sure that Falric and Marwyn were killed, judging by Arthas: Rise of the Lich King, they wouldn't choose to become Scourge.

[rollie9]

He was.

[Rusher]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adM-aRyYJxA
The cinematic in question.

He is most definitely a Death Knight. He's clearly dead already, and as was pointed out earlier, the men behind him are almost certainly Falric and Marwyn. Actually, the WoW 3.3 trailer explicitly states that one of the first souls Arthas claimed with Frostmourne as a Death Knight was King Terenas's right there.

And in response to the undead campaign question, yes, it begins immediately following this cinematic with Arthas just having raised Invincible. He has a little chat with Mal'Ganis and then destroys what's left of Lordaeron.

The bold part isn't right. Arthas died right after he killed Terenas.

[Deleted]

The bold part isn't right. Arthas died right after he killed Terenas.

Wrong, Arthas never died.

[Deleted]

Wrong, Arthas never died.

Well, he did when he ripped his heart off.

[Deleted]

Well, he did when he ripped his heart off.

But he was undead when he did that, so is it really death?

Basically, Arthas went from Human to undead without all that fuss with dying.

[Deleted]

But he was undead when he did that, so is it really death?

Basically, Arthas went from Human to undead without all that fuss with dying.

That's a contradiction. To be an undead, that one has to die first.

[Roveredo]

Well, i used to think that he was alive when he killed Terenas and killed after it ( you know, only Arthas, Malric and Falric against lots of guards and stuff ).